I am kinda led to believe that today's problems goes back decades and decades perhaps even a century or more.

How could you say that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction? What about the tens of thousands of Kurds that were killed thru the 80's when Iraqi aircraft bombed the kurdish villages in northern Iraq with mustard gas and several other lethal agents like sarin nerve agent? You can't say that did not happen, and it now common knowledge that weapons were transferred to Syria. According to and Iraqi General Sada they even took the seats out of passenger planes and flew them loaded to Syria. Supposed to have been 56 flights along with ground transport convoys. There cover was the flights were doing Iraqi relief efforts to Syria for a dam collapse in 2002.

Well just ask the Kurds about such weapons anyway!!!!

And Twinhit the economy has tanked from irresponsible elected officials most of which are lawyers and and have no clue of economics. The bama administration has the fewest private sector people of any administration. Less then %8 in cabinet positions, the rest are bureaucrats. Most presidents cabinets have been %40 or higher other then Kennedy and Carter which were around %30.

The definition of a Bureaucrat
"an administrator concerned with procedural correctness at the expense of the public's needs"

We need business people in there saying what will get things moving. If the get richer for it who cares as long as we the private sector make a good living while making them rich. I just don;t see it with the administration unless we throw enough of them out and they have no choice. Bring in CEO's help business don't go after it. Businesses create jobs not government, but the government can sure run it off with taxes and regulation and just a unfriendly environment.

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How could you say that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction? What about the tens of thousands of Kurds that were killed thru the 80's when Iraqi aircraft bombed the kurdish villages in northern Iraq with mustard gas and several other lethal agents like sarin nerve agent? You can't say that did not happen, and it now common knowledge that weapons were transferred to Syria. According to and Iraqi General Sada they even took the seats out of passenger planes and flew them loaded to Syria. Supposed to have been 56 flights along with ground transport convoys. There cover was the flights were doing Iraqi relief efforts to Syria for a dam collapse in 2002.

Well just ask the Kurds about such weapons anyway!!!!

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20an ... usLies.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le1779.htm
Never knew of the planes heading out to Syria CV, I thought they had been grounded or similar due to UN sanctions, as some people quote "in the fog of war sight, facts & figures become blurred / hidden " I've no doubt some peoples agendas get the fog treatment also, all done without a clear mandate from the UN, that hallowed place we all were supposed to sign up to and hold up as a shining beacon of democracy and justice for the world, somewhere we could take our greivences to and have them acted on by democratic procedure, I'd love to see all the facts laid bare on the whole thing CV, It'll make a helluva read.

nobody wrote that obama should get a free pass because bush was not impeached. that is you own illogic.

i wrote that you are delusional because you are calling for the impeachment of obama without citing even one specific charge and credible evidence to support that charge.

offer the forum a specific charge and credible evidence to back it up. until you do this you have nothing but general speculation fueled by your hatred of the fact that obama is president and your guy didn't win last time.

sorry just because your guy lost that does not mean that obama should be impeached.

your kidding...right? you mention the the gassing of kurds in the 1980's as proof saddam had weapons of mass destruction in 2003.......really?

never mind that fact that after the gulf war part 1 in the early 90's that iraq's military capabilities had been severely defanged by over ten years of u.n. monitoring and sanctions. any sane individual knew that by 2003 that iraq was not a serious military threat even to it's neighbors let alone the united states.

and how about the bogus yellow cake from niger claim?

also, if we can believe that weapons were transfered from iraq to syria wouldn't the u.s. be justified in attacking syria now?

U.N. sanctions were the reason for the use of civilian aircraft and the relief effort cover. He did right a book called Saddam Secret's several years ago. Also remember that Syria is not a signatory of Chemical Weapons Convention
A clip from The Middle East Quarterly
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While Western governments were able to pressure Moscow to alter its weapons shipments, Bashar al-Assad may not have limited himself to over-the-counter weapons purchases. The Syrian military's unconventional weapons arsenal already has a significant stockpile of sarin. The Syrian regime has also attempted to produce other toxic agents in order to advance its inventory of biological weapons.

Several different intelligence sources raised red flags about suspicious truck convoys from Iraq to Syria in the days, weeks, and months prior to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.
End of quote

All I can say is sitting down a several quorum's at the University listening to speakers on this matter there was little doubt of there existence.

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cvilleira, Im with you 100% on this... I wonder why we find it so hard to admit who our enemies are...and why we find it hard to do something about it...

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Because our enemies are our friends?

your right iraq was our friend when saddam gassed the kurds in the 1980's.

your kidding...right? you mention the the gassing of kurds in the 1980's as proof saddam had weapons of mass destruction in 2003.......really?

never mind that fact that after the gulf war part 1 in the early 90's that iraq's military capabilities had been severely defanged by over ten years of u.n. monitoring and sanctions. any sane individual knew that by 2003 that iraq was not a serious military threat even to it's neighbors let alone the united states.

and how about the bogus yellow cake from niger claim?

also, if we can believe that weapons were transfered from iraq to syria wouldn't the u.s. be justified in attacking syria now?

We have no right to attack anyone unless we are attacked. You know exactly what was meant by WMD's. Not SCUDS or other short range missiles. They were talking long range nuclear weapons. This whole thread is getting ridiculous. Trust no one.... Including the Conservative movement. Everyone's included, Republican's, Democrats and the rest all have their own agendas. Funny how the Conservatives talk about freedom except when it come to Gays and Abortion and a woman's right to choose. LOL They're all a bunch of money grubbing Hippocrates.

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If you really think your elected officials run your country, you must be blind.

It hasn't ever been that way, anywhere in the world. Democracy is a utter lie.

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And libertarians dont???

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Nope. That's why they rarely get elected.

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I really don't think that's the reason they don't get elected... but thats just my money grubbing hypocrisy talking

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