I would like to work as your campaign finance coordinator...don't worry about the fact that I have served time for embezzlement.

On a more serious note...those of you that claim obama is not qualified to be president are being a little silly. Again, the Constitutional requirements are above, and someone that graduated from Harvard Law School as the editor of the Harvard Law Review has the gray matter required to be president. Don't confuse your dislike of obama and his policies and make the claim that he is unqualified. That claim only shows your ignorance.

I also find it curious that obama is being branded as a failure for not turning the economy around yet, when has has only been in office 19 months, less than two years. In this microwave world people have no patience and expect their dinner to be cooked immediately.

Is it really realistic to expect that the economy will be rosy in 19 months after it took at least 8 years to ruin it?

As long as you have a BIRTH CERTIFICATE as proof to the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN part. If not I know where you can get a short form that has none of the info such as Hosp., Doctor, ect.ect.

Short form definition;
Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as "Certification of Birth", "Certification of Live Birth", or "Certificate of Birth Registration.

In many cases it is to much trouble to get a copy of the actual BIRTH CERTIFICATE even at a cost of millions of dollars fighting having to get one. But it does exist whats a few million.

Gold went over 1300.00 this morning and the projection are nuts. When do you sell? Thats almost triple of what I paid for some long ago.
Lately ( last year first 2 1/2 OZ. at under 300.) bought Palladium thats now around 555.00 and been rising.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

still on the birther thing. great!

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

So anyone who dislikes bama and his policies are ignorant. I think the ignorant shoe is on the other foot My friend. Though typical of a liberal to insult or call names as a defense.
When I don't agree with others I still would reframe from calling someone ignorant. Making exception above!!!! Even when I have little doubt that My education and knowledge far exceeds theres.
obam has fought in court and blocked the release of his school records from Occidental because it is rumor that he went there on funds made availible only to foreign students. Then after Columbia he went to Harvard which was lobbied to accept him by Khalid al-Mansour.

ignorant |ˈignərənt|
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated :

Captaineyeball That is not a birth certificate, read it. It says CERTIFICATION of LIVE BIRTH which means a BIRTH CERTIFICATE exist, show a copy of the BIRTH CERTIFICATE it represents. Why spend millions fighting doing that? He should put it to rest !!!! What is he hiding worth spending million fighting in courts? Ask your self could it be office of president worth those millions?

From DOH
June19,2009
In order to process your application [to prove native Hawaiian ancestry], DHHL [Department of Hawaiian Homelands] utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.
Please note that DOH [Department of Health] no longer offers same day service. If you plan on picking up your certified DOH document(s), you should allow at least 10 working days for DOH to process your request(s), OR four to six weeks if you want your certified certificate(s) mailed to you.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Here we go again. He's got a couple more years, a lot can happen by then. The whole birth certificate thing is getting old. I never saw Sara Palin's High School Diploma.

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He has spent 1.6 million dollars fighting it. Me I would have saved my money and paid Hawaii the cost of a regular certified copy of the original, so what it can take ten days. Cheaper the 1.6 million This has followed him long before he ran for office in Washington. They have fought to hide the school records and birth certificate for a long time. School record because of residence status. Oh yea I am sure Sarah would show you her Diploma.

From market dispatches.
Initial jobless claims rise unexpectedly
Initial claims rose for the first time in four weeks to 465,000 in the week ended Sept. 18, from the previous week's revised figure of 453,000. Consensus expected initial claims to remain unchanged at 450,000, according to Briefing.com.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Unemployment was pretty bad in the 70's too. The guy inherited a ton of problems from the last administration. Another one I didn't help get into office. It took a lot longer than 2 years to create this mess. I try to look at things with an open mind and not just what's spouted by the conservative right. I think... Therefore I am a Libertarian. There's radicals on both sides. We seriously need another side not just one side that looks out for big business. Everything and everyone needs to be considered. Including the planet. I don't want to live in a cesspool just so a handful of scumbags can get rich.

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No body wants that but are the countries where jobs are going to worrying about the planet? I don't think so!!!! We have to be careful how we regulate to help be competitive. Then if a scumbag makes millions a year by employing 1000 workers in the U.S. great we need more
Scumbags.!!!! I wish I was a scumbag that employed 1000's of U.S. workers, I be proud to make millions and know 1000's are making a living because of me and I'm getting rich. Don't over regulate me though because Chan Lee in China wants to make a living to and China is willing to do all kinds of things for me to operate there and I still make millions.
We have to look at all aspects.

2007 compensation cost for production workers in the U.S 25.27
Canada 29.08
U.K. 30.18
Mexico 2.92
Philippines 1.13
Singapore 8.47
Taiwan 6.58
Hong Kong 5.78

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

So we're supposed to work for three bucks an hour to compete? The scumbags aren't hiring U.S. labor, they're going overseas just to make huge profits which is fine, but don't expect people here to buy merchandise when they don't have enough income to pay the rent. The only way manufacturing will ever return to the U.S. is if people here work for third world wages without any benefits or we expose our workers to dangerous working conditions and go back to allowing manufacturers to dump whatever they want wherever they want. Makes sense to me.

Sorry, I was a Union Shop Steward from 1980-85.

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I would be willing to work for three bucks, if ALL other things were in line with that type of wage...

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Hey, Boy Blue is back!

No need to sorry IBEW AFL-CIO manny years local24 Area cost of living has some to do with it as Bill said, some countries $5 i s like $20 here heck when I work Washington's local union pay was less then Baltimore. Even areas of the U.S. differ in cost of living. Employers and local and Jurisdiction are struggling to pay Benefits and wage deals made years ago and workers are so not willing to give any up that it comes to shutting down business. Union pensions are not guaranteed my friend ask the 1000's of retired Sparrows Point steel workers that lost it all. bama signed a bill sending tens of billions to the states saying it was to save teachers and police jobs and it did by stoping cuts having to be made so that the jurisdictions had enough money to make pension payments for the year. Thats what Baltimore did as well as some cuts elsewhere and the county did for teachers as well. What about next year who covers it then?

I think everything has to be on the table to bring jobs back to the U.S. and make us the industrial giant we were and taught others to be. Taxes, regulation, benefits, investment incentives, pay. A needed correction across the board yet we know it can't happen all at once but I see none of it happening.
Opposite more taxes, more regulation, not dealing with benefits problem (prolonging), little incentive. Lets not forget Government spending spending spending!!!!

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Department of Labor say Maryland's figure of 5,700 newly unemployed in August is actually 7,000 It just get worst!!!!

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Unemployment reflects what has already happened in the past, GDP as well.

The stock market is an indicator of what may happen in the future. September was pretty strong for what is usually a very bad month for the markets.

What could cause gold to go still higher is the economic wars that could happen, eg China currency, Japan China mineral dispute. US dollar won't suddenly go into the dumper, and cause gold to rise, because most other economies are as bad or worse than the US. Somebody could do something stupid then all bets are off.

US has been loosing manufacturing jobs since the '70s, the term rust belt has been around since then. Buffalo, Clevland, Pittsburgh have been in a world of hurt since then. But standards of living are higher, a little. What's next, dunno, something, innovation or increase in productivity, but if the fed's kill this off with too much regulation and taxation the next 30 could be far different than the last 30 in terms of standards of living.

Another sign of the times, companies saying they are going to have to drop health care coverage to all there employees because of the new rules of the health care bill kicking in. As you can see they have succeeded in making health care worst for Americans!!!!
Just in from the New York Times.

As Obama administration officials put into place the first major wave of changes under the health care legislation, they have tried to defuse stiffening resistance — from companies like McDonald’s and some insurers — by granting dozens of waivers to maintain even minimal coverage far below the new law’s standards.
The waivers have been issued in the last several weeks as part of a broader strategic effort to stave off threats by some health insurers to abandon markets, drop out of the business altogether or refuse to sell certain policies.
Among those that administration officials hoped to mollify with waivers were some big insurers, some smaller employers and McDonald’s, which went so far as to warn that the regulations could force it to strip workers of existing coverage.
At a time when the midterm elections are looming and Republicans have been vocal in campaigning against the law, reaction to the rollout has been closely watched.To date, the administration has given about 30 insurers, employers and union plans, responsible for covering about one million people, one-year waivers on the new rules that phase out annual limits on coverage for limited-benefit plans, also known as “mini-meds.” Applicants said their premiums would increase significantly, in some cases doubling or more.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

they say on the news that the aussie dollar is going up...heaps

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