Robert Allen Zimmerman

Beaubs · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 2:36 pm

Its alright Ma....I'm only bleeding.......

cherokee747 · **Posted:** Mon May 24, 2010 4:29 pm

Johnny's in the basement , mixing up the medicine...........

Mike

Miami Mike · **Posted:** Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:54 am

Just like a rolling stone...

fhopkins · **Posted:** Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:58 am

"Come in" she said "and I'll give you shelter from the storm"

John.E · **Posted:** Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:05 pm

Saw James Taylor and Carol King on PBS the other night, at one point Taylor introduced the band members, from The Flying Machine.
When I saw them in person in the '70s we were all so much better looking.
It's alright ma, I'm only bleeding. Happy Birthday Bob
John.E

FretlessOnly · **Joined:** Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:35 pm **Posts:** 109

Boffer wrote:

Boy, is there! Now being 16, I've been much more than a true Dylan fan for a considerable time, and the level of my admiration of him increases every day. It started when my five year old brother introduced me to his music about four years ago. Of obvious reasons, I was not to fully understand much of his music at the age of twelve. In the following two years the whole thing gradually dawned on me. At the age of early 14, he took me to one of Dylan's shows. I was amazed. I read stacks of books, dug through my father's vinyl collection, spent hours on the internet and with my brother's stereo and complete dylan CD collection, including tons of odds & sodds, raritites, unoffical bootlegs etc. (!!). I can now not remember a single day since then where I haven't digged his some of his beatiful legacy to the world. And every time I discover something new.

Unfortunately, I have yet to see more people at my age be enlightened by his music. Even sadder, if said term is correct here, is that they will rather simply disgust my taste of music as old, boring and silly.

So, yes, there is atleast one of the younger forum members that "know knew he was", and not less know he IS. Atleast he thinks he does. Hopefully, and most likely, I'm not the only one.

Boffer, my man! I am so glad to read what you have written. So much of music needs to be taken in context of the time and situation of where life was at. While Dylan's music can be timeless, some of his best stuff, from '64-'66, is somewhat dated, but it always rings true to me. Dylan was the first real punk rock musician (forget the plastic placards in the record stores that spoon-feed you) - punk is an attitude, and in '65-'66 Dylan was punk as @#$!.

His lyrics in that period influenced so many; not so minor as John Lennon, who took the personal stuff to heart and went from there.

Dylan has my ever-loving adoration for being so influential, so true and an admitted a-hole. Bless him.

FretlessOnly · **Joined:** Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:35 pm **Posts:** 109

FretlessOnly wrote:

Boffer wrote:

Boy, is there! Now being 16, I've been much more than a true Dylan fan for a considerable time, and the level of my admiration of him increases every day. It started when my five year old brother introduced me to his music about four years ago. Of obvious reasons, I was not to fully understand much of his music at the age of twelve. In the following two years the whole thing gradually dawned on me. At the age of early 14, he took me to one of Dylan's shows. I was amazed. I read stacks of books, dug through my father's vinyl collection, spent hours on the internet and with my brother's stereo and complete dylan CD collection, including tons of odds & sodds, raritites, unoffical bootlegs etc. (!!). I can now not remember a single day since then where I haven't digged his some of his beatiful legacy to the world. And every time I discover something new.

Unfortunately, I have yet to see more people at my age be enlightened by his music. Even sadder, if said term is correct here, is that they will rather simply disgust my taste of music as old, boring and silly.

So, yes, there is atleast one of the younger forum members that "know knew he was", and not less know he IS. Atleast he thinks he does. Hopefully, and most likely, I'm not the only one.

Boffer, my man! I am so glad to read what you have written. So much of music needs to be taken in context of the time and situation of where life was at. While Dylan's music can be timeless, some of his best stuff, from '64-'66, is somewhat dated, but it always rings true to me. Dylan was the first real punk rock musician (forget the plastic placards in the record stores that spoon-feed you) - punk is an attitude, and in '65-'66 Dylan was punk $@!!.

His lyrics in that period influenced so many; not so minor as John Lennon, who took the personal stuff to heart and went from there.

Dylan has my ever-loving adoration for being so influential, so true and a fantastic a-hole. Bless him.

Boffer · **Joined:** Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 pm **Posts:** 83

I do very much agree, Fretless. Although all kinds of music through all times have been rebelious; probably even before Beethoven started composing those dary tones, Dylan was during these few years a true punk. If there is one Dylan concert, that I know of, that I wish I was at, it would've been the one at Royal Albert Hall in '66.
From having picked up his first (famous) electric (a Strat!), a year earlier, parts of the crowd were certainly not pleased with his "big band look". If you haven't already, you should absolutely watch Dylan's Newport DVD. It really shows what the audience actually thought about it.
Dylan had ever since early '61, two years after he traded in his electric for a double-0 Martin acoustic, shown his loyalty to folk. When went electric, it was against everyone's expectations. Dylan really brought punk to the people.
And this he had started doing even earlier. I mean, in songs like "With God On Our Side", "Who Killed Davey Moore"? and "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll", can you see much else than moralistic critique towards society itself?
However, your point of Dylan being the very first real punk rock musician, is a matter of discussion. What will we then name Bill Haley and The Comets with "Rock Around the Clock?"
Do I smell the burning fuse leading to a Dylan discussion here? :wink:

6163asfj · **Posted:** Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:37 pm

Staying power.

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