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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:03 am
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No you're not a Christian, you're a bigot pure and simple. Your what 14, 15? I'd hate to see you in another 30 years. If you want to get into the music business, you better get used to dealing with all types of people including homosexuals.



$@! you dude, that was uncalled for. who the $@! are you to tell me im not a christian. i know my opinion made some of yall mad but goin that far is a little fuked up.


You have proved my point. :roll:


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that im not a christian? who are you to tell me im not a christian? i know my beliefs you don't.


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This is the largest group of people who should be phased out. This Lady here is just a cook, plain and simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo

Tanner, I don't know you so i suppose I can't really pass judgment on you but that post was much like the views of the group in question. Honestly they don't even sound like your own views, just a google and subsequent copy and paste. I wonder if one of your BEST friends told you he or she was homosexual, would you want you want to see them dead and crisping in "Hell" Or better yet, what if you had a son that came to you with the same news... what would your reaction be to that.

I'm not a homosexual nor do i agree with that lifestyle, but as long as a group doesn't impede upon my life or my families I don't need them to "burn in hell" to feel better about myself.


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Perhaps those peoples time would be better spent helping those in need (Poor, Sick) instead of worrying about our eternal souls. It isn't their job to worry about it, God is the judge, he didn't put them on this earth to condem.

Of course you know those of us who listen to heavy metal are automatically doomed to the fires of hell... :roll:

WHATEVER.


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Tanner1994 wrote:
63supro wrote:
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No you're not a Christian, you're a bigot pure and simple. Your what 14, 15? I'd hate to see you in another 30 years. If you want to get into the music business, you better get used to dealing with all types of people including homosexuals.



$@! you dude, that was uncalled for. who the $@! are you to tell me im not a christian. i know my opinion made some of yall mad but goin that far is a little fuked up.


You have proved my point. :roll:


what point?
that im not a christian? who are you to tell me im not a christian? i know my beliefs you don't.


Hating people in not part of the Christian lifestyle. Isn't it supposed to be based on forgiveness? Put it another way, you don't act like a Christian. Do you praise the Lord with that mouth?

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I'm sure some metal heads will "disagree" with their views on dio, I'm also sure that these metal heads will express their "disagreement" physically.

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$@! you dude, that was uncalled for. who the $@! are you to tell me im not a christian. i know my opinion made some of yall mad but goin that far is a little fuked up.


Your clearly not Christian in your thoughts. Hatred has no part in Christianity at all. It has everything to do with hypocrisy. Show me one new testement refrence that condones hating anyone, anyone at all, even romans.

The simple fact is that your not christian your institutionalized by some other gang of bigots. Would you expect Jesus to come out with a statement like " I hate Ronnie James Dio, he's in hell now, lets go taunt his mourners", "I really hate homosexuals". Yet you claim to be a Christlike person. That is the only relevant to Christianity definition of the word Christian.

Now go hate whoever you want, I dont give a toss. But dont you ever blame my GOD (note the use of capitals, any Christian would know that) for your choices.

Christians like you are the exact reason I dont go to church. Man Jesus would be ashamed of you. How do you think he feels knowing that crap like this is spewed out in his name?

Hate the sin, love the sinner, be patient and considerate. One thing you can do before you go looking at the (pretty useless under Christianity) book of Leviticus (written to instruct Judaic priests on how to manage their portions of a nomadic race, completely superseeded by the New Testement) is get a strongs concordance and look up how many times the word 'Others' is used in the NT. Thats all its about, how to behave towards others, especialy non believers. It's got so little to do with what you get up to for a couple of hours on a Sunday morning when your bored, it's untrue.

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... if you are calling me a bigot for being a Chrisitian i guess God is a bigot also ...

Tanner: I am Christian, too. But there is a difference between knowing what is right and having prejeduce against others. We are ALL unclean, even you and I who are staunch heterosexuals. So let God be the one to judge. Remember, the Bible said, "Let those who are without sin cast the first stone". also, Jesus said, "Whoever feeds my brother, feeds me."

Just a thought, brother.

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Tanner

Re reading my post it can come off as a little harsh. I just want you to know I dont hate you or hold anything against you at all in the slightest.

Your life and your choices are your own. Just dont pass the buck when it comes to your feelings towards others.

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Howdy Dudes and Dudetts

Lets just take a moment to ....

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and remember this is the Fender Forums....

Lets keep things Light, Fun and Funky People! :wink:

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Howdy Dudes and Dudetts

Lets just take a moment to ....

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and remember this is the Fender Forums....

Lets keep things Light, Fun and Funky People! :wink:

Andy


Good Call Andy!

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Good Call Andy!

Cheers bill948! :D

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"Come on people, now,
Smile on your brother,
Everytbody get together,
Try to love one another, right now."

Thanks to Buffalo Springfield for a most poignant bit of appropriate philosophy.

A bit of unsolicited life wisdom on this...

...you don't have to like "them", believe "them", support "them". If you are for example a soldier or law enforcement agent, you may have to harm them, or worse. But in the end, pity the truly misguided, and do all in your power not to join them


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Let's just make it clear once and for all that these WBC people do not worship our GOD, the god of love and forgiveness. Yes, the late Mr. Dio has made some bad choices, has sinned, but haven't we all? WBC should be picketing themselves. Have some respect. Chill out.

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Tanner,
I don't want to get into a heavy religous discussion, I avoid it along with politics.
I would like to say though, in response to your views. There are a lot of experienced guys here in the forum, who have been around a bit in the music business. I, personally, on and off for over 40 years and I have met a lot of people.
Just to say, in passing, I am what we term as straight but I have met and worked with a lot of gays and found them, to be some of the nicest and friendliest guys one could ever meet. I certainly have never had any problem with people of that persuasion.
I started out playing gigs at 13 years old and the rest of the band were the same age and believe me man, this was the early sixties and we came across all kinds of really nasty weirdos, that we literally had to fight off.
I won't go into details of those days but we had to get through and things are a lot better in the business now.
The gist of what I'm trying to say here is, play your guitar Tanner, have fun and play with friends and join in with the forum.
But whatever you do, don't ever consider a career in the music business, with the outlook on life and the world that you currently have.
In short; the entertainment world is full of gays, it always has been.
You are young and this may be a phase you're going through, or you may be getting mis-guided advice and information from someone.
Always be you're own man, dude.
Good luck for the future.

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reading this post makes me miss my farm job. days would pass where i'd only see my buddy (boss/owner), his family, my wife and the dogs. the human race is cruel and nasty. good to know theres still a few decent folks around. "most" of em are right here on this forum.


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