Hey guys, I'm a Bluesy Rock Metal Classical Shred sort of player(If there is a better term feel free to educate me ) So my hope is that Fender will delve into producing guitars that are especially for Rocking out on... I mean I would like to see a guitar or maybe even a new series of guitars from Fender that are devoted to Metal or Rock or something.

I know somebody posted that they would like to see the HM strat re-appear but I dont think that would really work

So! Not long ago we all discussed Gibson on a thread called "The Demise of the Les Paul" (<<or something similar...) Gibson have covered every aspect of our players needs. even so far as to produce a 7 string explorer.

And because They have been so explorative and built such fine Instruments we pretty much all love there Guit's.
Even so far as to a few of us saying "if it came down to my strat or LP, The strat woud go..." it was never even a question of financial loss just preference.

I love Fender and would like to have the name of the headstock of my amazing guitar... But they just aren't making them right.

Throw some feedback and remember i do like Fender thats why I'm on here.

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Fender already makes too much weirdo chit. I say no.

Buy a Jackson or a Charvel if you wanna shred and dive-bomb.

Arjay

Fender has done this in the past. it hasn't worked for them.

Guitar players are fickle. we lie our fenders to be fenders, our Gibsons to be Gibsons, our ibanezes to be...

We gripe that we would like them to branch out, but as a group we tend to only buy variations of what they have done before.

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I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet.

perhaps this is completely ignorant and i missed the point, but for me it goes back to "its not what you play on but what you do with it" I love both metal and rock, and classical music. I am a big Arch Enemy fan, but i also have Air Supply and Neil Diamond in my iTunes... don't laugh. The bottom line is if you play that style, get a strat with a humbucker in the bridge and a locking Trem system. Look at the Dave Murray Artist series Strat (HSH). sure Iron Maiden is more classic rock/metal and not thrash or Death, but my point is is that there are metal bands that have a guitar player that uses strats. I thinking i'm rambling right now.

Id certainly hate to see a fender strat with an inverted headstock.

If you're talking about a completely different design as in a V style, well that's a completely different point and my apologize for rambling about the finer points of stratocasters as it relates to metal. That would probably draw a market.

I play Blues, Rock, and Metal on my Highway 1. I did have to replace the bridge pickup, but it sounds great now. I can play Classic Metal, Blues, and Rock on my American Special. It all comes down to style and gear. Personally I do not need a Floyd Rose or some other double locking tremolo to play Metal. Learn to bend 1/4, 1/2, and full steps. A mean vibrato action with you finger can go a long way without having to rely on a tremolo. Pinch harmonics are cool too.

For those who say you cannot play Metal with a Stratocaster I have two words for you...IRON MAIDEN.

BTW...Check out the Fender Floyd Rose HSS guitar. I have to admit, it needs better pickups, but what a great starter for those wanting a locking 2 point tremolo.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=501161

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RK

2007 Fender Highway 1
2012 American Deluxe
2015 MIM Dave Murray HHH
2010 Fender Blacktop
1987 Fender Avalon Acoustic
2012 Marshall DSL 15 watt head

Classiv Rock92 I know exactly where you are coming from and could not agree more. I have brought this topic up on several occasions. Both Gibson and Fender pretty much have mirror image stories, both had a genius at the Helm Leo for Fender and Ted McCarty for Gibson. Both struck gold early with there best axes created over 50 years ago. Both sold out to corporations and nose dived and both were bought and rebuilt by a new team that righted the ship. To me though that is where the stories differ as Fender has upped there craftsmanship while Henry has just about run Gibson into the ground and they border on being a joke with Quality Control issues out of the box.

I will give it to Gibson over Fender in one regard -they have really tried to produce something new on a steady basis where Fender has played it safe. But 7 duds in a row and I am not going to run the Grateful Dead joke into the ground does not cut it.

I own 4 Teles and 4 Strats and they are all different models as could be but how many of the same guitar can I buy. I also do not go for the Jackson Charvel theory as they are smaller companies that were bought up and pretty much left alone to do there thing and in no way are Fenders. I have shouted out for a new hit guitar with humbuckers since I have been on the forum and it amazes me they never produced one that was a hit in 60 years.

Fender will always be my #1 company but along the way I found a #2 that is closing ground. For my Humbucker needs I go to EBMM who have produced about 7 great guitars in the last 20 years and the quality,price, playability, tone, craftsmanship and color schemes are on par with a lot of boutique companies for 3K or more less. They are my Fender of the humbucker world without being a rip off copy cat company as they have taken some of the greatest modern players-Vanhalen, Morse, Petrucci, Lukather and even swiped Albert Lee to let these guys put major in put into there signature guitars where as Gibson or Fender have there artist tweak a Strat or Les Paul.

I even laid this on Mike Eldred and said if a player of huge talent and significance said to Fender they would like to create a guitar from the ground up would you guys be down and he said sure. So at least the door is open for something on the horizon. I know it was to close to a Tele but the La Cabronita was a killer sounding guitar and more of the direction I would like to see. Also Mike E was one of the originators of all those super Strats from the 80s as well as the others Fender took from Jackson/Charvel so they are equipped with the minds that know how to make some flashy axes that can tear it up. I think the future is bright here for many years to come though I could not say the same about Gibson till Henry sells, and lets someone try and save the company.

+1 They were never really that great at it anyway.

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I disagreed.

That being said, my reasoning behind it is that Fender makes more than just the strat.

Everyone seems to forget that, those at least who have never owned a tele, jag, or mustang.

All of these guitars are exellent and you cannot afford to pan them.


"You can make a tele sound like an SG, but you can't make an SG sound like a tele."- sage advice, though I don't remember who told me that. It's completely true.

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No, you can't Whoever told you that needs to seriously get their ears cleaned. A Tele has a certain brightness that you can't really get rid of.

Fender does make other guitars. They already have a bozillion versions of the Strat. They tried the metal thing years and Greg Howe was their poster boy. The amps and guitars were dismal failures.

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Really - he said that, huh?

That's interesting - 'cause I remember this thread from a couple of years ago:

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... et&start=0

That gentleman, Mr Shreddin, was quoted $12,000 for a CS Strat and for that they wouldn't even do half of his requirements. He was after a shred-type Strat, and some of his ideas were non-standard, to be sure. But none of what he wanted was totally beyond-the-beyond - yet the Custom Shop wouldn't do it, even for that amazingly big price.

I'd love to know if Shreddin finally got his dream guitar somewhere else, but sadly he soon moved on and never told us the end of the story.

Cheers - C

PS I hate myself for being able to remember an individual thread and its writer from two years ago! That genuinely is a bit eidetic - and not in a good way!!

Jackson and Charvel are owned by FMIC, so Fender already does make several guitar models aimed at the "Rocking Out" crowd. If you want one that says Fender on the headstock just so it says Fender on the headstock . . . you'll probably have to wait a long time.

Fender has put out a couple of nice "metal minded" shred machines and they just don't sell particularly well when they are Fender branded (HM Strat and Talon). I think it's because the majority of Fender players want the traditional Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster etc type guitars, that's what they come to Fender for.

I'd like to see them again, but since the market really isn't there for Fender, and Jackson/Charvel has that target demographic covered for FMIC, I don't think it will happen.

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I certainly have no trouble whatsoever getting a good metal sound out of a stock vintage spec strat. Neither did Fast Eddie Clark of Motorhead (or ritchie blackmore for that matter).
In a lot (and I mean a hell of a lot) of respects it produces a more defined, punchy and therefore heavier sound than the bland metal/bucker sound. Theres only one bucker for metal and thats the EMG81. Anything else is just too mushy with any appreciable level of amp gain.

It's a sound that's geared from the amp and has little to do with the guitar.

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No no and no

It's not the guitar that does the job its more about the player and what he/she does with it. That being said we all know that some guitars are limited to what it can do being stock so with a little modding of the pups and guts of the timeless classics such as the Strat and or Tele one could have a true metal beast. Now if its the metal look you speak of then yes i agree that Fender should research that area and put something out that will keep you metalheads pacified.

Like the Jim Root strat and tele you mean?

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No no and no

Both are great, and both are based on and built to Charvel specs! Go Fender, Go Charvel, Go Jackson!

I say we need a Heavy Metal Gretsch next. Who's with me!?

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