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Post subject: Did anyone NOT see this coming?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:28 am
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LimeWire is guilty of inducing copyright infringement, committed copyright infringement and practiced unfair competition.

http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/Music ... 273757637/

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:36 am
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I'm glad to see that... i'm shocked it's taken this long. Funny, i was just pondering this the other day.

I don't use Limewire... I try to do my part to not participate in downloading free music, which probably explains why my Itunes library is full of not so modern stuff. Not to mention, I much prefer album artwork i can hold in my hands and read through credits to see where things were done and who engineered it. Plus, its a huge IT no no here.


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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:05 am
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Ha, when did napster go down like 10 years ago? What took em so long to get limewire? I'm absolutely happy about this being an original musician, this stuff is essential to keeping artists being paid. I think that limewire should fry. As you can tell I don't use the service, and everything I have music wise I have bought. Down with limewire!!!

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:12 pm
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Thats good, my family uses 360 share pro, hope it gets busted.

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Post subject: Re: surprise surprise
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:34 pm
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blinkman364 wrote:
Ha, when did napster go down like 10 years ago? What took em so long to get limewire? I'm absolutely happy about this being an original musician, this stuff is essential to keeping artists being paid. I think that limewire should fry. As you can tell I don't use the service, and everything I have music wise I have bought. Down with limewire!!!

i'm sure it took so long, because investigators wanted to build a solid case, and avoid the mistakes they made in dealing with napster.

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:28 pm
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Not to mention, I much prefer album artwork i can hold in my hands and read through credits to see where things were done and who engineered it. Plus, its a huge IT no no here.


+1

Digital music has eviscerated the album as an art form. The ability to pick and choose -- instantly -- which songs to play, keep, and discard has rendered the album obsolete.

"Oh, Exile on Main St. I think I'll have tracks one, five, nine, thirteen, and seventeen."

That is a shame.


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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:29 am
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Digital music has eviscerated the album as an art form. The ability to pick and choose -- instantly -- which songs to play, keep, and discard has rendered the album obsolete.

"Oh, Exile on Main St. I think I'll have tracks one, five, nine, thirteen, and seventeen."

That is a shame.

Lord, I so agree - but what can you do? I feel like someone's grandad when I hear words coming out of my mouth along the lines of: "Kids don't know what an album is anymore - where a series of numbers was constructed to be heard in a particular order..."

I'm old enough to remember when CD players arrived with their "shuffle" feature - I thought that was the end of civilization! :lol:

I notice that Pink Floyd recently won the right to prevent their music being downloaded track by track. You now have to buy them an album at a time - as nature intended.

But then those guys are even older than me! :lol:

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What would be the point of downloading something like... say... "Pinball Wizard" without having the rest of "Tommy A Rock Opera" to go with it. It's an incomplete story if you do not have it all. I would be surprised if many folks under the age of 30 years have even heard the complete album. There are surely some here who have, but leave the Fender site and the numbers would be dismal at best. IMHO 8)

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Post subject: Re: Did anyone NOT see this coming?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:36 am
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LimeWire is guilty of inducing copyright infringement, committed copyright infringement and practiced unfair competition.

http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/Music ... 273757637/

On that, I heard Mick Jagger on the radio just this morning saying he was on the whole "fairly comfortable" with the download thing.

However he did say the way history was turning out the era when musicians made significant money from recording and selling music could now be seen to be just a brief period of a few decades. Wasn't that way before and now it seems it won't be like that anymore.

But then it's OK for him to be "fairly comfortable" about it - he lived his career during that short window of opportunity. He's done... fairly well out of it.

It's a different world from here on, apparently.

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captainc wrote:
Not to mention, I much prefer album artwork i can hold in my hands and read through credits to see where things were done and who engineered it.

Thank you for explaining the reason as to why I like CD's better than digital audio. My family says, "Why dont you just download the songs you want for free instead of buying the whole album?"

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:58 am
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Ceri wrote:
Miami Mike wrote:
LimeWire is guilty of inducing copyright infringement, committed copyright infringement and practiced unfair competition.

http://www.timesnewsline.com/news/Music ... 273757637/

On that, I heard Mick Jagger on the radio just this morning saying he was on the whole "fairly comfortable" with the download thing.

However he did say the way history was turning out the era when musicians made significant money from recording and selling music could now be seen to be just a brief period of a few decades. Wasn't that way before and now it seems it won't be like that anymore.

But then it's OK for him to be "fairly comfortable" about it - he lived his career during that short window of opportunity. He's done... fairly well out of it.

It's a different world from here on, apparently.

Cheers - C


Jagger is comfortable with the massed downloading of music because he understands that contemporary musical acts cannot make money selling music. The only way to rake in the "serious" money is to tour and sell obscenely overpriced merchandise. The Stones are lucky enough to have guaranteed-profit tours; albums remain important to them, but not as vital as touring. Why else would anyone spend two or three years on the road? This has, of course, the pleasing corollary effect of ensuring that better acts are coming through smaller cities -- such as my own -- more often. It was just announced yesterday that Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers will be playing Saskatoon next month: a city and province they spent thirty successful years ignoring. But the fans pay.

And Ceri, about the album I'll say no more lest I devolve into a frothing rage. It's a tragedy, but good for Pink Floyd.


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Post subject: Re: Did anyone NOT see this coming?
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:54 am
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The only way to rake in the "serious" money is to tour and sell obscenely overpriced merchandise. The Stones are lucky enough to have guaranteed-profit tours...

And obscenely priced tickets, too!

Interestingly, when we have "best and worst gig" threads here the Stones are often named in the "worst" category. I have reason to go along with that! Love the songs. The live show? Meh...

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:30 am
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I miss the old days... :cry: File sharing consisted of recording an album from your stereo to a cassette so you could play it in your car... :roll:

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:39 am
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blinkman364 wrote:
Ha, when did napster go down like 10 years ago? What took em so long to get limewire? I'm absolutely happy about this being an original musician, this stuff is essential to keeping artists being paid. I think that limewire should fry. As you can tell I don't use the service, and everything I have music wise I have bought. Down with limewire!!!

i'm sure it took so long, because investigators wanted to build a solid case, and avoid the mistakes they made in dealing with napster.


The thing with filesharing, is that its not entirely copyright. Its a means to connect someone to a song from someone elses gallery. Limewire was merely a bridge over it, or the programme that delivered you that song from someone elses music library. They didnt ever copy songs, that is how they got away from it, and they charged a members fee, not a fee per song or file so they didnt really commit any copyright infringement firsthand by making profit from an artists material.

Limewire was infact however- aiding copyright infringement on a large scale which was Limewire's ultimate sin.

We have all done it though- dubbed music from one cassette to another cassette, CD-R, DVD-R, USB Data stick, everyone has done it to one degree or another :) Im guilty of it for sure since I got my first "Ghetto Blaster" when I was young :lol:

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tdanb2003 wrote:
I miss the old days... :cry: File sharing consisted of recording an album from your stereo to a cassette so you could play it in your car... :roll:


Ha ha ha...

When Van Halen 1984 came out I had borrowed it from a buddy and HAD to have a copy. Didn't have a dual cassette so i put two boom boxes together and made a crap copy... Rocked enough for my youthful ears.

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