CHERRY PICKED INDEED...cvilleira how else do you explain that your original post that i quoted above leaves out key information about the aclu's position regarding the second amendment and gun control? you have offered no explanation for your omission. why did you leave key information out?

as i mentioned in my last post the information you left out includes the fact the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view.

so are you really saying that the the miller case decided in 1939, a unanimous decision, decided by a mostly conservative leaning court was a bad decision? a decision that had stood for 69 years. a decision that was decided by a unanimous court by justices that only one of which was a member of the aclu.

as far as your diatribe about the aclu mostly attacking christianity and then trying to force other religions down our throat..that is way off base. religious freedom is for all americans and includes all religions not just christians and christianity.

when government officials violate the establishment clause of the first amendment the aclu is there to prevent it. when the government tries to prevent the free exercise of religion guaranteed in the first amendment the aclu is there to protect religious freedom. take a look at the below link. the link is a list of aclu actions that defended the right of Americans to practice their religion over the last decade. over half of the actions were brought on behalf of self-identified christians.

http://www.aclu.org/aclu-defense-religi ... expression

oh and buy the way people is plural...you are not a people...you are one people...more correctly you are a person.

Nothing but a front for bleeding heart liberals and the communist!!! Before you get angry with me remember it's only my opinion so take it in that light!!

I really don't spend much time worrying about them!!

Not being aquainted with any of USA laws etc, but just reading this thread I'd possibly think this ACLU would defend your right to say that ie...
" freedom of speech", some countries you'ld probably just go missing

just an outside observance

Ha! Good day rippitup555!! I was just being mischievous and stirring the pot a little!! I'm not to be taken serious!!! My wife doesn't!!!

I'm only on hear to keep out my wife's way, sure she has some DIY on her mind

You ain't gonna believe this: That 7 ft. cross in the Mojave Desert, the one that was so offensive to the ACLU, it was stolen.
Maybe for scrap, or maybe the ACLU plans to use it in one of their Satuday night Satanic praise-a-thons. I dont know.

http://wbztv.com/national/mojave.cross. ... 87292.html

You cant make this stuff up.

What is the difference between a collectives right and individuals right are not the collective made up of individuals.
And face it the ACLA for the most part has work against Christian beliefs. They have taken the first amendment and twisted.They have stayed true to there beginnings of communist and socialist agendas for the most part. Capeye we will never agree for I am conservative and you are leftwing liberal. The forced elimination of many religious beliefs among other things in the name of civil liberty have just sped up the erosion of our society.Our parents generation had it better then us and our kids will not have it as good as we.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

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While I agree with you on the protection of Civil Liberties, I think the problem many opponents of the group have is where they stick there nose where it most certainly IMHO does NOT belong. Particularly when it comes to National Security. I saw the towers collapse with my own eyse, joined the exodus of dust covered folks as they quietly and solemly walked uptown out of danger to Union Square. So by all means wire tap the crap out of my phone to protect my fellow citizens.

This is straight from their site. Make your own opinion but I for one would HOPE that any government is taking an active role in protecting its citizens from potentially lethal targets.

http://www.aclu.org/human-rights-nation ... outside-co


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perfect example, thanks Bro

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

Agreed... they are the reason my kids now have a fall party/parade instead of a Halloween party, and a "Winter Celebration" so to make it very Non Denominational.

Soon we'll all have to sing "Oh Somewhat Important Night"

I think next Christmas i want to organize a plethora of people to send christmas cards to the ACLU

Good one!!

Indeed... I love it.

CV- It's not so much the assualt on Christian belief that troubles me, it's the assualt on the common will that I find intolerable. The culture war is being procecuted by the left. Or, they seem to be more organized in their
agenda than the right. Did you see the photos of the cross in that article I put up? Covered with plywood? Like we didnt want to offend the vampire community, fercrissakes.

But with their inflammatory actions, protests and suits, I hope disgust and outrage will become action. And that those in opposition will push back.
Hard. In a way, things are good. If McCain had won, the amnesty and socialized heathcare, would already be in effect, the Tea Party would not have begun, and we'd have gotten into it with Russia, Iran and France.

As it is, the Dems will be cleaned out if they attempt the amnesty, but will lose control, anyway, the GOP, it is known, cannot be trusted, so:
We will find another way.

Religeon particularly christianity and any form of political debate have no business together.

How many times in the new testement do you see refrences to Babylon. Particularly in the book of revelation where it is interpreted as being either Rome, the world or the sin of the world. Given that Christ comanded his people to be holy (set apart for literal translation) for God. The greek word is hagiazo. Here's the definition. http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=G37

Given the corruption that is rife in all politics it's a bit cheeky to say the least that any of em claim to be christian.

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