http://www.shakira.com/news/title/arizo ... our-future

I thought I might bring this up considering it is music related since Shakira and Gloria Estefan have protested the future law of Arizona and possibly the US. Although they base it more on immigration I think it falls under illegal search and seizure or some other constitutional issues which are being violated by requiring US citizen latinos to carry documentation. While I am not worried for myself since I was born in the US I am very disturbed by the consequences of what is happening to our laws.

I'm not going to post my opinions/conspiracies specifically or inappropriately on this forum and I hope you don't either but I think we should observe our local news as much as possible regarding this and other issues which are challanging our constitution and vote accordingly.

If you are legal there is nothing to be concerned about at all. Az has been a gateway for illegal immigrants, it is time to put things in check for the sake of the US, Phoenix is a hub to everywhere.

If someone were to be pulled over for a traffic violation and asked to produce identification, that should not be a problem. That is what the law is focused on, they are not demanding I.D. from every brown skin person as they walk down the street.

If you lived here you would understand why somethings have to change.

Contrary to what the network nitwits and media eunuchs are reporting, our new state law basically mirrors the already-existing federal statute. And rather that "weaken the constitution" it actually strengthens both it and the electorate at large by ensuring that a bonafide citizen's lawfully cast ballot is not diluted by someone not authorized to vote.

Arjay

Anyone from anywhere may travel through out the State of Arizona if they are not a U.S. Citizen and not worry about anything as long as they have a passport or a Alien Green card.
What is the big deal?

We Americans just can't pack up our stuff and move to England, Ireland, Germany, France, Australia, Why should we in America allow anyone to just show up here.?
None of the countries I said are going to allow you to come to there Country and apply for there healthcare, or any other government assistance. Why should we allow that in America?

Face the Democratic party don't wont to do anything because they know minorities vote 90% Democrat no matter what and the Republicans don't won"t to do anything because they don't no how to counter the backlash it would cause them.
It is time both parties enforce the laws on the books and do as the majority of the people won't. Forget the voting block thing and political correctness and do there job as the Constitution meant it to be done. We are going bankrupt in this country and can not afford to take care of people form other countries.

Please someone tell me the law that says illegal aliens in the U.S. that have a child while here makes the child a U.S. Citizen?

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Have you actual read the law mustangtoo? It strictly prohibits racial profiling. It's about time they tried to curb the problem. Seemed Sheriff Joe was the only one who did anything, although his motives are more for TV, at least he was doing something.

And yet that's exactly what's inevitably going to occur for it to be enforced, unless you think LE are going to be demanding ID of white folks because they are suspected of being illegal Canadian immigrants. This law will probably be ruled unconstitutional, fortunately.

Fine employers that hire illegals. Don't harass people for Living While Hispanic.

What is wrong with profiling? It is a study of statistics and odds to come of with a profile of what the average suspect of each particular crime is. Race is just one aspect of profiling and it is done for things other then criminals. Profiling is done to find those groups more susceptible to high blood pressure or any number of medical problems and yes race is involved in that. The U.S. census which is to count the population is used for profiling they ask race,age, and every ten years our politicians use it's profiles for gerrymandering.
Years ago the MD State Police where using a profile for what to look for to catch drug mules driving the I-95 corridor and it was working then they got in trouble because race was involved in the profile. Tell me if your looking for a drug dealer in a area where 98% percent of the population is one race what are the odds the dealer is in the 2% race? Talk about standing out!!!!
If you are here legal you have nothing to worry about! The time has come to do something. Maryland is filled with illegals, it was shown they were giving out 2000 drivers license to illegals a week here and registering them to vote using the motor voter law. Governor O'Malley (Democrat) actually told police at one time they were not allowed to ask legal status when being question for a crime. He is a ultra liberal loony!!!!

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Don't expect too much of a political discussion on this forum as much as i thoroughly enjoy such discussions but I'm just gonna say this.

Part of the intent of the law is to prevent those here illegally from receiving public benefits by requiring proof of eligibility. I couldnt support that any more... in fact I hope that logic spreads in the form of senate bills for every state. This country is becoming increasingly socialized. I was NOT NOT NOT in support of the 1200 page document deemed a health bill that was forced through, and if I may add, met with much criticism of the other side that just wasn't true... but that i suppose is an entire thread altogether. But, alas, it has been passed. So I will accept that I may take a hit on my healthcare quality to provide those who need it, but i'll be DAMNED if my tax dollars are going to go to someone here who slips through the system before a family that are bonafide citizens and pay taxes just like I do. Yes i know ... they are hard working people... but does that mean the unemployed "Citizens" of the U.S. aren't hard working?

Also, please name one country that you can just walk into, and without completing the process of becoming a citizen, just get handed a health card, drivers license etc.

I hope my views do not taint any (if at all) positive views of my character.

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Racial profiling saves lives IMHO. I work in Manhattan and walk through Times Square twice a day to get to work, and with the recent terror thwart, i just want to extend my thanks to every law enforcement, and military official on this Forum for the job you do everyday to protect us.

I myself don't have a problem with it. Day laborers hang out in one spot about 2 miles from my house. I drive by them everyday. I don't see why police can't stop and ask them for ID's. People act like the police are going to stop every single hispanic person they see. I'm sure it wouldn't be much different than it is now, they'll ask for ID if they other reasons to talk to you. It's too bad the protesters will probably ending up keeping this from happening until 2012.

We know where the problem is, and it's not coming from Canada. I think the percentage of immagrants from other areas actually try to come to this country legally. They're not stealing other people's identities.

We tried to E-file our taxes this year and we couldn't because the IRS said someone was already using my daughter's SSN. So we had to get a bunch of stuff to verify she was our daughter and lived with us that year and mail it in.I don't know if they were using my daughter's name also, but I'm native american and have a hispanic sounding last name, so I'm sure if they did, it wasn't a Canadian.

I could care less what Gloria and Shakira want or think. There are now more illegals in AZ than there are soldiers in the US military. Shakira aint paying for them, so,stfu Shakira.

If AZ ignores the crisis we will be swamped and bankrupted like California.
When the tax suckers move in, the tax payers move out. Simple math.
Sorry if the law seems racist, but when 90% of the those violating our system are from the same group, hey, it's natural to associate the group with the crime. Lo siento mucho.

This is just the beginning. Other states are wondering how to they will follow AZ. And I am calling for a boycott on all Gloria and Shakira products and sponsors.

Just dont boycott the song Gloria. It's where a lot of us got started.

You can say that again.

And i'll add in addition to my shout out to the Police and Military personnel, i'd also like to give a shout out to celebrities. I'd say keep out of politics, sorry Bruce... don't give a rats $@! about your politics just play your song and STFU, but its really kind of funny. I mean... boycotting Arizona Iced Tea which is made in Brooklyn NY... keep up the good work, i love a good laugh.

God bless Tim Robbins... what a character.

Yeah if San Francisco is so upset, maybe they should take all the illegals off our hands.

I know if Al Sharpton and Obama are against it, then we're doing something right.

I heard people are going to boycott diamondbacks game, when they play their hometeams. Now what city is that really hurting? lol

I think Shakira is pretty hot! Gloria still looks good.

Almost every US citizen is a decendent of an immigrant unless you are pure blood Native American.

I think the current environment is causing stress and anger is the result. People are trying to find a direction for their anger and politicians are trying to benefit.

So I am not sure about the immigration laws and how they are enforced.

Just in case you're wondering, my family landed in the US in 1736. And because we have been in the US a while I have quite a mix of blood in my family history including some Native American. I don't think that makes me more qualified to comment.