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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:26 pm
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Since they are asking over a grand for it, was this because they have relic'd it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Limited-Run- ... 0521270646


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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:02 pm
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Years ago a tech buddy of mine found a 68 SG in the corner of the shop he was working in buried under a pile of old cases and guitar parts.The guitar was broken at the headstock much like the one in the picture,he glued it and clamped it and left it for a couple of weeks,another buddy of mine is playing that guitar to this day.The break on the 68 was cleaner than the one pictured but as long as no wood is missing or badly disfigured it may be fixable but certainly not worth the money they're asking for such a gamble.

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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:07 pm
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I'll have to remember that one if I ever smash my guitar. I'll just sell it as a relic :lol:


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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:59 am
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I dont know how much the repair is but those SGs sold for over 2K so they figure someone will take the gamble. It is amazing how common those breaks are on all Gibson guitars yet you never see a Fender break like that at the headstock. At least I never have, but I have seen a ton of Gibson headstock repair articles over the years in magazines.


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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:26 am
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eBay, at times, is just a place for one moron to take advantage of a bigger moron....

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bowlfreshener wrote:
eBay, at times, is just a place for one moron to take advantage of a bigger moron....


A profound statement!

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:34 am
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FWIW, that's a nice, clean break, easily fixed by a COMPETENT tech.

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It can be easily fixed, but I doubt the guitar is worth over a grand now. I know I would not buy it.

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:48 am
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in the past I have seen a few Gibsons broken and repaired at that or near that area, no guarantees but a couple that I saw after a few months played with no ascertainable difference in sound or playability, makes me wonder if my back up bass neck is repairable.

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:59 am
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rkreisher wrote:
It can be easily fixed, but I doubt the guitar is worth over a grand now. I know I would not buy it.


I missed the price. Over a grand? NO WAY!!!

I was saying to myself last night, "Self", I said, "E-Bay has really morphed into a clearing house site for mostly stores who can't unload their 'loss leader stock' in-house or for private citizens who think they can command list pricing for their no longer wanted stuff."

Yea, MAYBE one in a while a 'decent' score is to be had but the days of REAL scores are long gone. Even if the price seems 'tolerable', they nail you on the shipping to where it surely no longer is. The only advantage left is if you need something scarce or in a hurry, there's a good chance you'll find it there and of course, you are going to get financially reamed for it.

As always, all the above is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:14 am
Like the other guy just said, NO WAY!


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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:19 am
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I can't see why after all these years with this inherent problem with neck/headstock breakage Gibson hasn't seen fit to strenghten the volutes.Just by allowing the volutes to be made thicker would largely remedy the problem.Maybe it's just because the breakage is usually caused by an impact of some sort(usually not much impact)that's it's not a warranty covered problem so they don't care how often it happens.The simple fact that minimal impact can cause catastrophic damage should concern them but they -in interest of the bottom line-can pass it off as "owner inflicted" damage and therefore have a great excuse to not cover it.All in all by not going through the expense of reconfiguring the machines to cut heavier volutes and not covering any breakage, good old Henry J. is saving money.There-I answered my own question.

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guitslinger wrote:
I can't see why after all these years with this inherent problem with neck/headstock breakage Gibson hasn't seen fit to strenghten the volutes.Just by allowing the volutes to be made thicker would largely remedy the problem.Maybe it's just because the breakage is usually caused by an impact of some sort(usually not much impact)that's it's not a warranty covered problem so they don't care how often it happens.The simple fact that minimal impact can cause catastrophic damage should concern them but they -in interest of the bottom line-can pass it off as "owner inflicted" damage and therefore have a great excuse to not cover it.All in all by not going through the expense of reconfiguring the machines to cut heavier volutes and not covering any breakage, good old Henry J. is saving money.There-I answered my own question.


Believe me, I'd be the last person to defend the Gibson 'suits' but they actually did modify them a while back. They really straightened out the pitch angle of the headstock, added a thick volute and went to 5 piece maple necks. As you might expect, everyone and their mother started bitching that they didn't like the lessened pitch, the 'hump' volute and wanted their mahogany necks back. So, Gibson reverted and 'round and 'round it goes once again.

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Thanks for that Martian,I wasn't aware of that,I think that I'd rather put up with a beefier volute than be afraid that the slightest smack would render my guitar useless.I guess some people are prepared to treat their gutars as gently as a piece of fine crystal to get the Les Paul sound.It seems to me that you rarely see a corresponding Epiphone model with the same problem,maybe they have a stronger volute.

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:46 am
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guitslinger wrote:
Thanks for that Martian,I wasn't aware of that,I think that I'd rather put up with a beefier volute than be afraid that the slightest smack would render my guitar useless.I guess some people are prepared to treat their gutars as gently as a piece of fine crystal to get the Les Paul sound.It seems to me that you rarely see a corresponding Epiphone model with the same problem,maybe they have a stronger volute.


You're welcome.

Most production Epiphones do have a maple neck and a much lesser pitched headstock. It is the, "Elite" series out of Japan which essentially tries to duplicate a 'real' Gibson Epiphone's specs.

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