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Been said that there will be some spectacular sunsets to the west tonight, anything like that going on up there NonniG


Propably not. It is very cloudy and raining in my part of the Island, so I wont see it.

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Been said that there will be some spectacular sunsets to the west tonight, anything like that going on up there NonniG

Propably not. It is very cloudy and raining in my part of the Island, so I wont see it.

Wonder what Arne Saknussem would have though of all of this? :wink:

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ripitup555 wrote:
Been said that there will be some spectacular sunsets to the west tonight, anything like that going on up there NonniG

Propably not. It is very cloudy and raining in my part of the Island, so I wont see it.

Wonder what Arne Saknussem would have though of all of this? :wink:



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1883 - Munch's the Scream American researchers claim to have found the answer to the blood-red sky in Edvard Munch's famous painting "the Scream." The inspiration came from a volcanic eruption in Indonesia in 1883.

That would be Krakatau...(N.B.: the spelling is correct. The newspapers of the time got it wrong, and somehow it stuck at Krakatoa)the shot heard round the world.

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1883 - Munch's the Scream American researchers claim to have found the answer to the blood-red sky in Edvard Munch's famous painting "the Scream." The inspiration came from a volcanic eruption in Indonesia in 1883.

That would be Krakatau...(N.B.: the spelling is correct. The newspapers of the time got it wrong, and somehow it stuck at Krakatoa)the shot heard round the world.

So I've been reading, some pics of one of her offspring
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... dlier.html


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1883 - Munch's the Scream American researchers claim to have found the answer to the blood-red sky in Edvard Munch's famous painting "the Scream." The inspiration came from a volcanic eruption in Indonesia in 1883.

That would be Krakatau...(N.B.: the spelling is correct. The newspapers of the time got it wrong, and somehow it stuck at Krakatoa)the shot heard round the world.

So I've been reading, some pics of one of her offspring
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... dlier.html

Yo!! Beaucoup thanks for that. That's Anak Krakatau. First appeared above the surface in 1923 and has grown to what is represented in those photos these past 87 years. The cycle of building and destruction in that location has a history of thousands of years and known events have been documented back to at least 400 BC. In that location, around the present volcanic edifice, are remnants, as islands of the pre-1883 structure and one that predates even it's growth.
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ZZDoc wrote:
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1883 - Munch's the Scream American researchers claim to have found the answer to the blood-red sky in Edvard Munch's famous painting "the Scream." The inspiration came from a volcanic eruption in Indonesia in 1883.

That would be Krakatau...(N.B.: the spelling is correct. The newspapers of the time got it wrong, and somehow it stuck at Krakatoa)the shot heard round the world.

So I've been reading, some pics of one of her offspring
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... dlier.html

Yo!! Beaucoup thanks for that. That's Anak Krakatau. First appeared above the surface in 1923 and has grown to what is represented in those photos these past 87 years. The cycle of building and destruction in that location has a history of thousands of years and known events have been documented back to at least 400 BC. In that location, around the present volcanic edifice, are remnants, as islands of the pre-1883 structure and one that predates even it's growth.
Doc

Did you ever see this documentary Doc, fantastic stuff
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 601300.ece
don't remember if it was this or another programme which backed up this theory by finding the pumice miles inland that came from santorini


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Did you ever see this documentary Doc, fantastic stuff
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 601300.ece
don't remember if it was this or another programme which backed up this theory by finding the pumice miles inland that came from stromboli
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I'm familiar with that connection. One of the books in my library, entitled 'Fire In The Sea" is about Thera/Santorini. The tsunami which ensued from that was the death of the Minoan civilization on Crete, not so much from the wave as the aftermath which greatly affected it's social order and economy. BTW..one of our Forum members lives on Java.

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A postscript on the rather impressive photos. These may have been taken from one of the remnant segments of the old caldera which appear as 'islands' rising above the surface of the ocean. They are named Verlaten, Lang, and Rakata and form a rough circle around the edifice which presently stands in the center of the scene. Java, Sumatra, Borneo, and Malaysia are a bit more distant to permit that kind of photography. It is from the bottom of the old caldera that fresh magma has built the present cone which, from its appearance, appears to be a cinder cone. Hydrovolcanic activity is very complex. It's explosive nature tends to form edifices called tuff rings of which Oahu's Diamond Head, Punchbowl Crater, and other structures along that coast are examples of. The article quotes a scientist citing the oft represented cause of that titanic explosion in 1883 as an interaction between seawater and the magma chamber. I've heard of that. However, a volcanologist from NYU has been seen on a TV documentary expedition to Krakatau and the surrounding islands. He was searching specifically for deposits from that eruption because sequencing of events can often be discerned from size, shape, color and texture of fallout. It is his contention that the finding of old rock among the deposits points to the likelihood that the conduit was block and that the tremendous gas pressure building up in a magma whose composition is such that it does not release gases easily (as compared with the liquid lavas of the Hawaiian volcanoes) simply reached the point where it literally blew out and vaporized its container.
Krakatau of 1883 was a kind of long flat topped edifice with three distinct vents. The activity began at one end but, in the final days, all three were cooking. The history of the vent appears to be cyclical but I don't know that we have reached the point yet where a really big bang, the likes of 1883 is forthcoming. I would suspect that, as long as magma continues to find its way easily out of the cone the situation is nominal. I would begin to be concerned if and when there comes a period of inactivity. That would give the opportunity for the conduit to be sealed and then, any ensuing attempt by new magma to reach the surface could have catastrophic consequences.

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Build your own Volcano Doc, Stratovolcano
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/kr ... katoa.html

Still out of harms way up there Nonnig ?


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[quote="ripitup555"]Build your own Volcano Doc, Stratovolcano
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/kr ... katoa.html
Thanks for th link. Very great info, and that view from orbit is great, Too bad it didn't incorporate the remnant 'islands'. That would have been an informative perspective.

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Check out these pictures.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36553710

Amazing!

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Check out these pictures.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36553710

Amazing!


Joe, Amazing indeed. Thanks so much for those...

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