Yesterday in a post by Beaubs I said I'd try my Blues Jr. through my Marshall 1960 4-12 cab loaded with G25 12L Celestions and when I got up this morning the first thing I did was toddle downstairs to my music room and give it a go.I must say the experiment was a smashing success,you wouldn't think that it was the same amp.The Celestions really brought the character of the amp,on a clean setting(with my MIC Casino)it was as clear as a bell and actually had a chimey tone.When I turned the volume and master both halfway it had a lovely warm tone with just a tad of rawness. When I maxxed the volume and turned down the master is when it really shone,what an amazing sound,pure unaldulterated raunch with a real tasty crunch words can't describe the sound,it's that outstanding.I can see now why people are taking the innards out of BJs and building seperate heads for them,running them through an extension cab really brings out the tonal possibilities this amp is capable of.It would behove Fender to build a head only version of this little darling.I was wondering if I just put in a Vintage 30 if it would give me a better tone response than the Eminence that came with it as this is the 1st amp I've owned with an Eminence speaker.Suggestions?

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Everything is gonna’ sound better through a 4x12 . you are gonna get more low end and more air movement, its going to be an overall fuller sound. As far as changing the speaker in your combo that is up to you…I am a huge fan of the V30 but the Eminence speaker is very good as well.. I just don’t know how much difference it is going to make when you’re talking about only one speaker, you may notice some mid range difference depending on how loud you play the amp . I have played the Mesa dyne combos and a/b the black shadow Eminence speaker against the v 30 in the combs. There is not a lot of difference between the two but there is some, and I like the v 30 better. For whatever its worth if it were mine I probably change to the clestion but that’s me …Or you could run it through the 4x12 all the time

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The problem with the BJ is not the speaker in the cabinet it's the size and design of the cabinet. Small, light and portable may be great for loading gear but it's not great for tone. Through my 1X12 Rivera cabinet with a V30 my BJ sounds much, much better than through the stock cabinet. BTW, my BJ is also loaded with a V30. Now that I have done the same experiment I will be looking for a way to convert my BJ to a head unit.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

Unfortunately the wood the Blues Jr cabinet is made of is part of the issue.
I am really surprised that more people have not done what I have and have a custom cabinet made for the Blues Jr chassis. Or make it into a head.

If you really don't want to go to that extreme I suggest a Scumback "M" model speaker.
I also suggest measuring the length and width of the reverb unit and then cutting a nice 3/4 inch thick piece of solid wood and mounting that to the inside of the amt cabinet where the reverb unit is currently mounted then mount the reverb unit to that piece of wood.

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I didn't Lose my mind, I traded it for this guitar.

Chet…. I’m trying to see the method behind the madness of re-mounting the reverb unit to a separate piece of wood.. stronger connection with less extra vibration maybe?.....Please explain as you have certainly peaked my interest.


Bill

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Let me see if I can explain this.

The cabinet of a Blues Jr is in essence particle board, a wood that is made from gluing and pressing sawdust/woodchips/etc. So it is not as solid as it could be. Since a reverb unit is springs that vibrate by putting it on a solid piece of wood you are giving it a harder surface to work with, thusly improving the vibrations.

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I didn't Lose my mind, I traded it for this guitar.

Yes, Thank You for your input.

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I didn't Lose my mind, I traded it for this guitar.

ahh ok that was kind of how I was picturing it…I did not in face know the BJ was particle board so that makes much more scene to me now.. what does not make scene to me is why you would ever use particle board in a combo amp where the speaker and sound vibrations would shake the thing apart over time…Ok in a head sure I guess but not a combo. I guess Fender want to keep it afforadable as they can…. Thanx Chet & BigJay…good looking out during my blond moment….LOL

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Makes scene to me it just struck me as odd.. I have 7 amps all made of cabinet grade birch plywood…I was just not aware particle board was widely used in amplifiers.. I know marshall new dsl cab is particle board to keep cost down . I don’t see how it makes a difference in a closed back cab…now in an open back I can see how you would want dampening and in that case a more sound absorbent material makes scene.
I was not suggesting the blues Jr would literally come apart; Just that it would be not as strong and have a better potential for damage from dropping, spills , over all longevity or what ever

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