Some of the testimony sounds worse than first expected :

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/fp ... story.html

Now it's a criminal investigation.

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Witch hunt, next it will be Kellogs because someone choked on a fruit loop that wasn't perfectly round.

How many recalls have American car companies had with worse problems and no "criminal" investigations.

I dunno...choking is one thing, death(s) by defective equipment is another ballgame, especially when they tried to cover it up and blame it on the floormats at first.

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Hi Mike: regarding the break pedal recall, over here the head of Toyota Europe was unavailable for comment. In fact, he couldn't be found. Eventually a newspaper tracked him down hiding out in Switzerland, being chauffeured around - in an Audi.

True.

BTW: I phoned a friend. He picked up and said: "I'm driving my Toyota. I'll call you later - can't stop..."

(Not true.)

Cheers - C

Yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if Barry O's involved in it as a ploy to help American Auto workers Unions by influencing public opinion against foreign cars. He loves those Unions like I love Rock and Roll.

Interesting Ceri...I believe that this is going to open a whole new can of worms.

Maybe will put all auto makers on guard for better design and quality control?

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misdirection for sure, just can't pinpoint what it is the media and Government are keeping us from watching, there is so much bad legislation being worked on (or worked over), we will find out probably when, whatever it is has been passed or voted on or not voted on, but you can be sure it is much worse than a car recall. ( I just can't believe that we have foreign Governments playing this horrible shell game right along side of our own).

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From the testimony:

"I put the car into all available gears, including neutral," Ms. Smith [also] put the car into reverse, in which position the gearshift remained as the car quickly reached a speed of 100mph.

After putting both feet on the brake and employing the emergency brake to no avail, Ms. Smith began to think that her only choice was to run her car into the guardrail, if only to save the other drivers on the highway."

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Just think about how people who got "cash" for their "clunker" and bought a Toyota must feel...

I don't think Toyota will disappear...profits and stock values may go down to the point where someone buys them out, then re-launches it "under new management", or under a new name sort of like how Philip Morris Co. Inc. renamed themselves Altria Group to sort of distance themselves from the cigarettes killing people thing...But then again, thats a possible example right there....Just because a business acknowledges that some information may have been mishandled, misrepresented, or misleading resulting in the deaths or injuries of many people does not necessarily mean its over for that business...

I mean the consumer market might suffer, but now Toyota Racing might start winning NASCAR races.... I got a bad sense of humor, just trying to have fun...

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I don't believe that modern transmissions will allow you to shift into reverse, or park, at speed. I would think that neutral would be available for safety reasons, but perhaps not in this case.

Who knows what to believe, but one thing is going to bite Toyota in the butt....
The internal memo gloating about how they saved $100,000,000.00 by putting off the regulators.
Some heads are going to roll, both at Toyota and elsewhere.

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Theres the problem.

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The syncromesh of gearboxes was designed to stop that, even on my first car. A 78 Ford. A friend of mine once destroyed a Austin gearbox by somehow getting his mini into reverse at 70mph. There were bits of it all over the road.

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I never liked the fly by wire system at all, seems similar to the mysterious Airbus crashes which are also fly by wire for all controls I believe. Either way like I said Toyota isn't done with this yet.

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Nick,

The trans is electronic shift.

Doesn't matter that the lever was in R.

Computer didn't sense it.

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Sounds familiar, this maybe?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2442674/posts

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