Ha ha, but you have to keep the original one going, i was the last to post on that.

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because theyre from Seattle and the members of Pearl Jam were in there

also w/o Mother Love Bone we wouldnt have the songs Would? by AIC and Say Hello 2 Heaven by Temple of the Dog because both were written about Andy Wood (who was Chris Cornell's roommate at the time.) And we prob wouldnt have had half the grunge bands that were around. They played a very big role in the grunge movement, without them there wouldnt have been Soundgarden, TOTD, PJ, AIC, etc etc

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I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk...

The whole point of the Temple of the Dog CD was a tribute to Andrew Wood.

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If you listen to early Mother Love Bone, and early Alice In Chains they do sound a little Glam Rock.
But at the time that was where they split from the genre.
Neil Young is considered by some as the "God Father of Grunge".
Although I don't believe all that I read from Wikipedia, I do have to agree with this entry,
Wikipedia defines Grunge as:


"As a style of music, it is generally characterized by 'dirty' guitar, strong riffs, and heavy drumming. Grunge is also popularly referred to as the Seattle Sound."
In many ways, grunge music was to the 90's what punk was to 70's. Both grunge and punk were relatively short lived musical genres that had a much greater impact than their sales, radio play, and concert performances would indicate. However, critically, both genres were both hailed and disparaged as either the future of rock or an indication that rock was dead.

That may be because before they were "grunge" Alice In Chains was a hair metal band...

Believe it or not, this is Alice In Chains before grunge...looking a bit more like the Bullet Boys...

Its hard to believe, but believe it. Thats a young Layne Staley second from the left, Mike Starr second from the right, and Jerry Cantrell on the right-hand side.

And is it just me or does Jerry Cantrell look like he borrowed some produce from Derek Smalls?

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That pic is on the on the inside of the AIC Music Bank Box set too.
They are one of my favorite bands from the 90's, I wore out many tapes of theirs as a teen.
Derek Smalls ...sweet......lol Gotta love Spinal Tap !!!!!!!
Grunge had to start somewhere....-N

really? i did not know that. Thank you for that info i just filed it in my memory warehouse. I only knew the song was a tribute

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I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk...

i knew AiC wasnt always grunge..... the name actually came from Layne's band Alice 'N' Chains.... said band played hair metal and dressed in drag

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Favorite bands:

Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

Pretty much none of the bands known as grunge bands set out to be grunge bands. They were just bands that the press labeled as grunge bands. In fact, most of the bands and people from Seattle and the Pacific Northwest hated the term grunge, and did not, and perhaps some still do not, want to be associated with the grunge-era, phase, hype....

In fact, speaking of hype, anyone out there who wants to get a good idea of what many of the so-called grunge bands felt about the whole movement and being labeled as a grunge band need to check out this documentary:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6793006

It pretty much reveals how the whole grunge image was a result of the corporate money machines and how most of the bands and artists who are called or considered grunge bands really do not enjoy being associated with that term...In fact, many of the bands would, or still will, pretty much laugh in your face if you use that word around them...

For the most part, it seems that any one who was in Seattle or the Pacific Northwest and directly involved in what was referred to as "grunge" when it was actually or supposedly happening hates the term "grunge"...So as cool as you think "grunge" is, many of the people who were actually a part of what was labeled "grunge" think the whole hype and everything associated with the word "grunge" is ridiculous and stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I liked, and still like much of the music from that time period and region, but "grunge" was and still is just a blanket term for anything from the Pacific Northwest and/or Seattle. So many bands do not sound anything like one another. Grunge is just a broad term like "Produce Section" is in the grocery store. Some things are fruits, some are vegtables, some are similar, some are not, but to say that everything in the produce section is the same, or should be considered the same thing, is a bit far fetched....

Items in the produce section, if they could think, probably do not like being lumped together with all the other items in the produce section because they are all individually unique in their own way, much like "grunge" bands, and to just group them all blindly just disrespects all the unique things that make them different than the others in the same section....

They are all just bands to me...

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while i agree with you. I wonder if those same bands are enjoying the money that came from those evil corporate folks that signed them and helped them get their music out to regions past the pacific northwest. I wonder how many bands from that region got contracts in there faces but turned them down because it would be against all that they stood for.

Thanks for the tip on the documentary... i just put it on my netflix. Looks very interesting.

In the doc, some bands pretty much say we don't know what they were all hyped about, but if they (the record companies) were dumb enough to offer us a ridiculous amount of money, many felt it was smart to take it. And I'm pretty sure I would do the same thing...You know what I mean? If something you do normally everyday suddenly gets viewed as brilliant and someone wants to pay you a huge amount of money, why not? Though some do mention that there were strings attached sometimes in the no strings attached deals...

In fact, the story of the DOD Buzz Box pedal is a perfect example. The pedal was associated with Buzz Osbourne of The Melvins...The story is, Buzz was offered money to sign on with DOD so they could say they named the Buzz Box after him, since its loosely based on the MXR Blue Box that Buzz uses. The thing is, they were going to call it the Buzz Box whether he signed along or not, so he just signed along, got his check and moved on. Pretty much because whether or not he was involved, he would be associated with it because of its name, so you might as well take the money...

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Absolutely,

My cousin's band was offered $13,000 i believe it was to make a record. They knew the strings attached weren't the greatest, nor were they happy with the length of the contract. But their attitude was that they might not ever get the opportunity to be paid that much to go make a record so they took it.

also i hate the inverted-snobbery a lot of grunge fans, not bands, fans, have where they view anything that achieves even the slightest success as complete s#!t no matter how much they liked it before it was successful

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Favorite bands:

Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies