I was wondering the same thing about Daltry and Townshend calling themselves THe Who,I don't think that Paul and Ringo would call themselves The Beatles but that kind of thing has happened before with just one member ofa defunct band taking the band's name and hitting the road,I believe that Badfinger is one example after Pete Hamm and later Tom Evans commited suicide.Yet Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman took their show on the road and didn't use Guess Who or BTO as their name.I just can't see why so many are so adamant about keeping the name long after the demise of key members.....Do you think it might just possibly be somehow related to increasing revenue?

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As far as Townsend and Daltry calling themselves The Who, correct me if I am wrong but I believe the Who never officially broke up, while the Beatles did. I mean are all of you upset that the Rolling Stones still call themselves the Rolling Stones even though Brian Jones died and Bill Wyman is no longer the bass player?

Oh and by the way psychmusic why don't you take your own advice and just go away.

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Yeah but the thing is with the Who the better part of them is in the grave. The real dynamic part of the band (Moon) and the rhythm section (Entwhistle) are deceased. Townsend and Daltry are not much more than decoration without them.

If you went and got the original studio take of any of their songs and zero'd the bass and drum tracks you'd have a accurate idea of whats gone.

Without Moony and John their just a bar band. A nondescript bassist and drummer with a egotistical singer (out of tune) and a guitarist thats constantly frustrated by his gear or clothing (just the same as every other guitarist).

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Agreed, they are original founding members, why shouldn't they keep and use the name. Look at UFO. They have a long list of band members and still call themselves UFO. And there are several others that have done the same thing. What are you supposed to do? Change your name every time your lineup changes? That's just foolishness.

For me, I really think Ox shaped their sound, a lot more than anyone realized. Although Moon's fans think he was the defining factor, they played without him for a long time and did a good job retaining their sound, but for me they lost their groove entirely after Entwhistle passed.

I am not in the 'totally hated it camp' for their performance. but they were really really shaky at the start. can't blame the soundman when Townshend missed his cue a couple times. They were better toward the end, but i reall think Ringo jr and Pino really carried the day.

also Guitslinger Randy Bachman and Fred Turner actually wanted to hit the road as BTO but while Randy temporarily (he thought anyway,) disbanded the group to work on a solo project the other members (excluding randy and fred,) bought the rights to the logo and the BTO branding. Fred and Randy cant tour using BTO initials. In fact the other members are trying to stop them from even touring under the "Bachman and Turner" or "Bachman Turner United-BTU" monikers. saying it hurts the integrity of their BTO brand. it seems to me some people who rode the gravy train don't want to see some other people making money if they can't skim off the top.

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I knew there was something going on about the BTO branding but never did find out what,thank's for the update.I guess it's money that figures into it when all is said and done.

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Okay, I make a point of never going negative any more here ... But I am going to make an exception. Niki's post above was ... well ... stupid. Not just "stupid". Actually it was more like "stratospherically stupid". Yes, the Ox and Moony were amazing. But Townshend and Daltry a "bar band"??? In recent years, it is surprising just how good and energetic the Who has been playing and sounding. Further, it is mindless to extrapolate this one sub-par gig across the board. Obviously many of you (especially Niki) never saw the their (less-than-a-year-ago) stellar performance at the VH1 Rock Honors which was amazing.

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That's the one I was looking for, that's the one I was comparing them too but couldn't find on Youtube, That's exactly why they have no excuse for sucking so bad on the halftime show. It's no secret that Townsend (much like Jimmy Page) hates to practice at home, and seldom touches his guitar when not touring. I think that lack of respect for the instrument showed itself in spades at the Superbowl.

And I must add, Pino Paladino is very a very distinctive Bass Palyer, and if you see him in a Bar Band, take note, cause you wont be seeing that very often.

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Your entitled to your opinion about my apparent lack of intellegence. However I didn't see all the Who VH1 performance, simply not captivating enough to warrant my intrest. The simple fact is that the who are not a band anymore, infact 50% of the who are nothing but a coverband or more accurately musicians paid to play other peoples music. The other 50% are sadly very far past it hawking a name they made fortyfive years ago. Just like with the stones, I ask wheres the new high quality material, or do we have to put up with constantly dredged up hits from yesteryear?

Sad fact is I see bar bands every week putting more energy and effort not only into performance but into writing too. Ok the moneys not there to provide some grandiose pop-mongrel inspired stage and light show. I'd expect any performer to see through that when judging a stage performance. Give me enough money and I'll provide you with three bands that offer better performance and more musical output than the Who do these days. I always thought the idea behind a band was to create, not re-hash or re-perform. It's ok for a wander down memory lane, if thats what your into. Hardly adequate for a couple of musicians claiming the title of rock god or whatever they proporte themselves to be these days. I've made plenty of reasonable excuses for the 'ok' superbowl gig. E.g 15 minutes hardly being enough time to warm up.

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When I was a kid during 1984, The Who did a farwell tour. I had some friends over and we watched the very last Who show. I believe they were going to break up after this tour. I think we each paid 10 bucks to see the show. Sure enough, The Who was right back at it next year. I want my 10 bucks back for false advertising.

The Who sucks now becuase they dont even pretend to go through the motions of making a new CD and subsequent tour. Instead, they take the easy way out and just tour, tour, tour. Do you think Townsend even writes any new music at all or do you think he writes music and throws it away beacuse its crap. Daltry spends his spare time doing fantasy rock camps for adut

I would rather watch Lady Ga-Ga becuase at this point she is more creative than Daltry and Townsend.

Niki - I never made any comment about your intelligence. But if that was inferred, then I sincerely apologize. Growing up, my buddies were all Led Zep heads while I was the seemingly lone Who nut. I was always defending the Who and holding up Townshend as a guitar hero. Hmmm ... it seems I may have some "lingering issues" that may require some couch time. I may need to have that looked at ...

Sincerely, dude, my bad ...

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Loved them. Loved watching Pete play hard. Loved all the Fender gear instead of his old Gibsons or whatever he used to play. His Strat looked and sounded great, too, imho. No, he doesn't hit the high notes like 1980, but that's cool.

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No harm no foul, at all mate. I've had a few personal issues this past couple of days and seem to take everything as a brick round the back of the head. I apologize.

I know how you feel when it comes to being a Townsend fan. The most I can say about their current state is that we differ in opinion. Unfortunately I'm not one to let any artist to rest on their laurels. I'm far more critical of newer kids on the block. I dont want to hear covers of some 30's blues song. I've probably heard it untold times before. I want something new, music is becoming far too stale. Hence the shower of happy gogo dancers we have masquerading as popstars for kids these days. Kids dont want to be like their parents. Thats entirely why I became a longhaired leather and denim wearing reprobate. To be as far away from my dads clean cut Mod look of his youth as possible. It never stopped me snaffling his record collection though.
On Townsend, we cant judge him because were not entirely sure how far his participation into that sordid sick world went/goes. I find myself having very divided feelings about him. On one hand theres this iconic guitarist. In many ways the guitarist all my heroes aspired to be like. Superb songwriter, unnatural sense of melody, superb chord voicings. On the other potentially someone who's personal choices invalidate him from any decent level of society.
What can I as a parent who's been quite involved with people that have suffered at the hands of such degenerates do?
Quite simple, I'll listen to and enjoy the records he recorded forty years ago. If he knocked my door looking for shelter, he'd find a very hostile reception though. I personally can see no excuse for his actions.

Even if Townsend's actions were innocent or well intentioned, they were thoughtless. Look at Jackson, he never really came back after allegations were made. I cant see how Townsend can either. It's going to dog him the rest of his days. Protect Our Children delivered flyers all over Miami, protesting at his performance. Unfortunately people like us can only speculate as to what went on. The fact is that we dont have all the facts to make a accurate judgment as to his guilt or innocence. He made his admission and was never convicted. That says something of his innocence or the flaws of the judicial system. Perhaps if the book he was writing was released it would help clear it up? Quite typically of Townsend though its a 'stuff you, I'm doing it my way' attitude. You'll never convince him otherwise. He no doubt thinks the situation and his work as a performer have nothing to do with each other.

I'm very much in two minds over all of that situation. I cant discount his recorded work at his peak because of it though. Thats like rejecting 'Off the Wall' because Jackson was to later turn into a weirdo. It's a daft action to judge someone 'then' on 'present' performance.

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The Who At Kilburn, watch this concert DVD through a home theater set-up and then tell me about the Stupid Bowl.
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It hit me right away, that the vocals were off.

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