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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:30 pm
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So My Pedaltrain board w/voodoo labs power supply arrived today. Hoorah and all that! I'm curious to know what order I should run the padals featured in the pic in. And bear in mind I have a carbon copy and flanger en route. So if youo would be so kind as to include those in the order as well. Thanks!

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Congrats on your new pedalboard!

First off, I assume your "Blackstar" switch is for channel switching, and it's not really "in" your signal chain--put it anywhere that's accessible to your foot...

Put your TU2 tuner first, due to the fact that modulation pedals can screw up your tuning. Since you didn't mention any distortion or overdrive pedals, I'm assuming that you are getting your grit from your amp...that makes things a little easier.

Conventional wisdom says put the Dyna Comp (or any compressor) first; however, I hate conventional wisdom...so do some experimenting. If it soundsright, it is right! For example, I put my Ibanez TS9 before all my modulation pedals (Boss RT20, MXR Phase 90, Wah), and my fuzz & distortion pedals after the modulation, which is a "conventional wisdom" no-no...but it sounds good to me (and the audience, too)!

So--tuner, then compressor; if you are running more than one modulation pedal (wah, phaser, flanger) at a time (which would be kinda strange, but not unheard-of), figure out which ones work well together and switch them around--a phase-shifted wah might sound good, but a wah-affected phaser might sound bad...

One conventional wisdom rule that I found is true is putting an echo/delay last in the signal chain...for some reason, if you put a delay before modulation, it gets messy really quick. Later, if you ever get a noise gate, put the delay pedal after IT as well, due to the fact that the "echoes" are seen as noise by the noise gate

BTW, I have a Carbon Copy delay, and that is the greatest echo/delay I have ever played through--hands down! Congrats on that new purchase as well!

So, if it were me, I would put the pedals in this order;

TU2 Tuner
MXR Dyna Comp
MXR Phase 90
Crybaby Wah
Flanger
MXR Carbon Copy

Have fun, man--you look like you have a pretty cool rig on your hands...

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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:27 pm
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I have wah before tuner which I shouldnt have but for some reason the wah sounds better there. Then I have my Phase BEFORE my Fuzz and then a chorus after, then I have my FDR-1 which I use for trem and a touch of reverb.

Not wholly conventional but it works for me.

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I would suggest trying the phaser after the flanger i like a more extreme flange sound then put through a slow phaser. I think its a neat sound. Whatever sounds good is whats important.

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Nice lookin board all-thumbs.I've heard the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power is a good one. Please review once you've got it all tweaked and runnin right........... 8) Mike

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Nice looking board Thumbs!! 8)


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cherokee747 wrote:
Nice lookin board all-thumbs.I've heard the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power is a good one. Please review once you've got it all tweaked and runnin right........... 8) Mike


That may be a while Mike. I just rigged it per screamin dillo's order and got blocked at the the dyno comp. Everything works fine when the dyno is on, but i get dead air with it off. I'm also getting a lot of static with that order and a serious loss in signal strength. So i'll be juggling things around a bit. Any other signal chain tips are more than welcome! Also, I have a "Dirty Bomb" distortion pedal that I dont use much but since I have plenty of realestate may add to the board as well.



OK... I'm an idiot! I switched the patch cable to the bypass on the TU-2 and it fixed ALL of the issues mentioned above!

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That may be a while Mike. I just rigged it per screamin dillo's order and got blocked at the the dyno comp. Everything works fine when the dyno is on, but i get dead air with it off. I'm also getting a lot of static with that order and a serious loss in signal strength. So i'll be juggling things around a bit. Any other signal chain tips are more than welcome! Also, I have a "Dirty Bomb" distortion pedal that I dont use much but since I have plenty of realestate may add to the board as well.



OK... I'm an idiot! I switched the patch cable to the bypass on the TU-2 and it fixed ALL of the issues mentioned above!


Ahh, the infamous TU-2 Bypass port--that one has screwed me more than once! :?

Hopefully you'll be able to use all the suggestions from this thread to your benefit...and vjcor, who said to put the flanger before the phaser was right--that does create some cool sonic texture.

One other thing, I don't know what type of patch cables you're useing, but if you're getting too much noise, try the Planet Waves patch cable set--I've had good results thus far...

...and of course, the best noise supressor on the market (IMHO) is the ISP Decimator (try the Decimator G-String if you use an effects loop).

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It may be worth going Comp', Wah, Tuner, Phaser. That way the compressor is giving a nice constant signal to the wah, strengthening it a tad. Also tuners can benefit from a compressor too, particularly with singlecoils where you can get a sharp attack then a rapid drop off. Add any distortion after the tuner but before the wah, if you add one. Sometimes if your clever at setting em a compressor after distortion or in the effects loop of an overdriven amp can add a great punch. Kind of early british metal or recent megadeth tone. Its very tricky to set up though.

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nikininja wrote:
It may be worth going Comp', Wah, Tuner, Phaser. That way the compressor is giving a nice constant signal to the wah, strengthening it a tad. Also tuners can benefit from a compressor too, particularly with singlecoils where you can get a sharp attack then a rapid drop off. Add any distortion after the tuner but before the wah, if you add one. Sometimes if your clever at setting em a compressor after distortion or in the effects loop of an overdriven amp can add a great punch. Kind of early british metal or recent megadeth tone. Its very tricky to set up though.



I'm running the tuner 1st (on bypass) with the comp being the 1st actual effect and I noticed the boost you spoke of. I was most pleased with that unexpected result. I'll have to experiment with order when the other 2 pedals arrive, plus I have a fuzz face to work in there somewhere. Still not sure if I'll patch in the dirty bomb or not.

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