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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:48 am
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He's not someone I get too excited about one way or another. My wife likes him, my sister likes him. He writes soft rock/pop for the girls. I heard a 3 man blues thing he did with Pino Palladino, again, my wife played it for me. Pino is a world class bassist, they sounded really good, some good electric blues but I wouldn't go out and buy it.

:roll: That aside, the guy is young, popular, has an audience for his music, gets to play with world reknowned players and has hot girls chasing him. Naysayers be damned, you'd trade places with him in a second if you could. So you'd toss and turn a little at night concerned that you sold out. How's your day job going? Is it as good a gig as he has? :roll:


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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 pm
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[quote="straycat113"]Just finished the cover story interview-The Double Life Of John Mayer The King Of Pop Or King Of The Blues- in Guitar World.

It was an interesting article and needs to be read carefully and in depth. I certainly left with the feeling that he still doesn't know who he is yet and is exploring a variety of styles and philosophies. In the new CD's he's a little bit of this guy and of that guy and so on. :?

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... I'm sorry but I just do not find the vast majority of Hollywood B movie (what was the last great film out of hollywood) stars that attractive. Or tv stars for that matter.
Their constantly pushed at us, as this is the way to be, this is sexy, this is what you should want. Sod that. Gimme a woman with some meat on her bones, a brain in her head and a good library of cookbooks.

I likes em built for comfort, not speed.


Lol, I can understand that ... different strokes as they say. Aniston looks pretty dang comfortable to me. :lol:

But if you're going to knock Hollywood for pushing the definition of "sexy", you'll need to go deeper than that. It's not just Hollywood, it's the entire beauty industry - from the cosmetics companies to magazines like Cosmo and Playboy. They're really the ones responsible for today's distorted perception of "beauty" because that's where it starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFlxSlO ... playnext=1

But I understand where you're coming from. I've met/known hundreds of "hollywood beauties". The majority would be better off if they didn't speak.

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StratShooter wrote:
But if you're going to knock Hollywood for pushing the definition of "sexy", you'll need to go deeper than that. It's not just Hollywood, it's the entire beauty industry


Yeah absolutely Phil. I'm in no way a femminist, more chauvenist. But I cant help recognise where upto 50% of the population is suffering a form of oppression. To make it worse its pushed on em as being something they want, and their all pretty much convinced. Dont get me wrong, any woman wanting to doll herself up a bit is a good thing in my book. What a woman does with her body is her business, share and share alike is my motto. :D

Any man can tell his woman she's beautiful when shes dolled up to the nines about to go out somewhere. Its when their full of flu and a splitting headache and nursing us that are feeling exactly the same, that their really beautiful to my mind though.

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I do however think he needs to stick to one form of music. I cant think of one artist, (maybe zappa) who has constantly played different styles and not antagonized his audience. Fans just feel alienated and betrayed when the change happens.


Do you think all players should stick to one form of music? Would you say the same about Clapton? What about Hendrix? Both of those guys played a varity of styles... they played the music they liked. Jimi hated playing Hey Joe but he did it because it was the one his fans wanted him to play. I applaud Mayer for playing what he wants and not always bowing down to his fans.

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I do however think he needs to stick to one form of music. I cant think of one artist, (maybe zappa) who has constantly played different styles and not antagonized his audience. Fans just feel alienated and betrayed when the change happens.


Do you think all players should stick to one form of music? Would you say the same about Clapton? What about Hendrix? Both of those guys played a varity of styles... they played the music they liked. Jimi hated playing Hey Joe but he did it because it was the one his fans wanted him to play. I applaud Mayer for playing what he wants and not always bowing down to his fans.


My take on Mayer has always been that he sounds too much like his influences.(SRV, Dave Matthews, and now a smattering of Paul Simon). I don't see him having a unique style as yet. Not so for the artists you cite in your comments. One thing I credit him for are his observations regarding player's quests for SRV's tone.

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I think he need to Sober Up and ground Himself if he wants to connect with an audience outside the Pop Charts. According to this Rolling Stones Article, that won't be happening anytime soon.........

http://www.thefablife.com/2010-01-20/john-mayer-not-over-jennifer-aniston-masturbation/

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There's another angle to which I have given thought and that's with respect to the Fender guitar project which Mayer is the centerpiece of and that is Bonnamassa's having eschewed Fender and signed with Gibson. :?

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From what I have learned in here and talking to other guitar players or musicians is if you don't like JM now you probably never will. Whether you like him or not you have to appreciate that he is a musician that goes out and plays the guitar in all his songs. It may not be your flavor of music but at least he is not one of those people that are famous just for having a voice. There is nothing I hate more than going to a concert to see a band and the guitarist is in the back shredding all the lead. JM is introducing a lot of young players to Fender and when they learn of his influences it opens their minds to the greats such as SRV and Jimi Hendrix. I think he is doing great things and personally I am a fan of all his stuff from the Young Bubble gum pop stuff all the way to his latest album. There are not a lot of artists out there who are writing all their own music and producing their whole albums like he is. I can't wait to see what he does next.


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From what I have learned in here and talking to other guitar players or musicians is if you don't like JM now you probably never will. Whether you like him or not you have to appreciate that he is a musician that goes out and plays the guitar in all his songs. It may not be your flavor of music but at least he is not one of those people that are famous just for having a voice. There is nothing I hate more than going to a concert to see a band and the guitarist is in the back shredding all the lead. JM is introducing a lot of young players to Fender and when they learn of his influences it opens their minds to the greats such as SRV and Jimi Hendrix. I think he is doing great things and personally I am a fan of all his stuff from the Young Bubble gum pop stuff all the way to his latest album. There are not a lot of artists out there who are writing all their own music and producing their whole albums like he is. I can't wait to see what he does next.


Different strokes, of course. It's what speaks to you and good that he does. One might apply the same reasonable analysis to HipHop and Rap music but that genre would not ever appeal to me.

I've watched both Mayer and Bonamassa in concert, and I find the latter far more 'together' in many respects. Much more energy. It's simply the manner in which a particular artist's style hits you.

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Voodoo Blues wrote:
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I do however think he needs to stick to one form of music. I cant think of one artist, (maybe zappa) who has constantly played different styles and not antagonized his audience. Fans just feel alienated and betrayed when the change happens.


Do you think all players should stick to one form of music? Would you say the same about Clapton? What about Hendrix? Both of those guys played a varity of styles... they played the music they liked. Jimi hated playing Hey Joe but he did it because it was the one his fans wanted him to play. I applaud Mayer for playing what he wants and not always bowing down to his fans.


Voodoo I dont think you should jump from one style straight to another on a album to album basis. Jimi Hendrix played psychadelic hippy music with a bit of blues thrown in. That blues usually had psychadelic lyrical refrences too. Theres what red house that didnt, you could include hear my train coming or midnight lightning but hendrix never saw fit to release either. Even then it was one or two tracks on a album that were a little different from the rest. The great Mick Taylor quote of 1970 was "Hendrix should stop messing about and just do what he's good at, play blues". As for Clapton ok his big change in style was from Mayall to Creme. Even that wasnt a huge leap. The first Creme album is comprised of bluesed up jazz songs and old blues standards with a few Bruce/Baker/Brown tracks thrown in. Ok he's evolved as time has gone on, but only changed enough to let his fanbase evolve with him.

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As far as music goes, John's a great musician. He's got skills I totally wish I had.

When it comes to him, I think he's funny and smart. He seems like he's not too sure about himself and he's willing to do alot to figure out who he is, or what he can do to fill an empty space in him.

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http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopth ... n-aniston/

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http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/99817/john-mayer-still-haunted-by-jen-aniston/

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Poor bloke, her didnt need to write an album about her. He should of just gone out on the lash with his mates.

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holy crap, the fact you're comparing him to Hendrix and Clapton is IMO building him up a little too much. The guys a good student but those 2 helped write the book on modern electric blues. He's not rewriting the book, at best carrying the mantle. This gets a little subjective. I think SRV was more of a "carrying the mantle" guy, pushing it to the next level and even he's not a true originator but what the hell, it's all a matter of what makes your hair stand up at the end of the day. Mayer's a player, he's not Clapton, he's definitely not Hendrix and he's not SRV. To play like those guys takes talent, to break new ground like they did is genius. I don't see that with him. He's competent. Not a genius. All my personal opinion.


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