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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:27 am
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bbrodie wrote:
I agree cell phones are horrible. A couple months ago I saw Springsteen at one of the last shows at the Spectrum in Phila Pa. I didn't bring a camera because I thought the security would be tight. I was sitting 15 rows up from the back of the stage and people were going nuts with the cameras and Springsteen was actually posing for photos. I was sick. I could have gotten some incredible stuff from my vantage point. Crowd and performer shots.

When you saw the Dead did they still have a recording area? You used to be able record bootlegs of their shows. They didn't care and they still made a pile of money.


That show was in '95. They had a recording area, it was in front of the sound booth about mid way back on the floor. Which is a pretty sweet spot if you ask me.

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Ha - been meaning to look out these photies... (Apologies to bbrodie and the other pros for the quality of what follows.)

Back in 1980 my dad gave me an Olympus OM1 - my first camera that you had to focus. Just a day or two later I went to a Who gig (on their first tour without Keith Moon). There were big signs up everywhere saying; "No cameras!!!" I was terrified I was going to have my prized new SLR taken off me but though the security guy found it under my jacket he left it alone.

I got up to the very front of the stage where I had to balance on upside down plastic beer glasses (they were stronger in those days) to get my nose over the edge of the solid barrier. I had a bouncer standing right in front of me most of the night but gradually I got more and more bold taking pics and he couldn't have cared less. This is my very first effort with a grown up camera - I then processed and printed the pics in a dark room. So you can clearly see why I never became a professional photographer... :oops: :
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After the show I kinda just strolled in backstage. I was ignored for a while and started snapping away - till I made such a pain of myself Pete pushed me out and shut the door in my face. As you see, I really hadn't got focusing under control yet:
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Anyway. Man, he was drunk!

Been taking bad gig pics ever since. No problems.

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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:40 am
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Smart Pones keep getting more in them.
My current Android has a 5mp camera/video and 40Gb memory,
and the next model up had an 8mp camera/video but it ran WindowsCE.
Auto-focus, Auto ISO, (crappy digital) zoom, and weak flash (good to about 10 feet) built in.

Though for the others you are in a private setting (they can if they choose enforce what you can do while on their property).
The images of the artists (this goes for pro sports teams as well) are usually trade-marked/copyrighted. And they will most probably try to sell you memorabilia, if you make your own that cuts into the profits :D .

If you can sneak a camera in and are unobtrusive, most likely nothing will happen.
I was at a concert last year where a group of people were ejected for repeatedly taking flash images after being warned to stop.
They did get that warning first.

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You can't. Unless you have something like an Iphone, the photos and video will sound and look pretty bad. They worry more about guys like me who bring professional gear like DSLR's and long fast lenses. If you bring a point and shoot and stick it in your shirt pocket, you'll probably be okay. Some of the 10 and 12MP point and shoots from Nikon and Canon due a pretty nice job. Years ago I used to bring a tripod and a slr to concerts.

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Great points and advice
Not sure what route i'll take but im leaning towards taking one...the lighting should be enough w/o the use of flash.(tickets are 3rd row from stage)
Thanks for the photo's guy's
Really cool....now a point proven, Had you not taken your camera, you would not have been able to share them with us..
I'll be taking along the pick gaurd and sharpie as well.... :wink:
I'm really excited...and I cant wait!! :D

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Miami Mike wrote:
A lot of artists/performers have their own publicity/PR people who don't want an unauthorized document distributed.
This.

But if you are allowed to take pictures do NOT use flash if at all possible. Not only because it's distracting to the performer and audience, but because the photos will suffer. Someone worked hard to design that stage lighting - by using a flash, you're simply eradicating those efforts and a poorer image will result. Depends on the venue of course, but 99.9% of the time, stage lighting will always look much better than the light from on-camera flash.

The purpose of a photograph is tell a story - even if the photo is just a "I was there", snapshot, the stage lighting is part of the story.

Here's an Allan Jackson show I photographed as an example. Flash would have completely killed the atmosphere.

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Ceri, that's some great history you've captured! And Townsend with a bottle - who'da thunk it! :lol:

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:05 am
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Take your camera but don't use the flash.

I took some good up close Buddy Guy pics at one show and then a year later handed him one after his last song at another show and he signed it.

Don't be shy, you'll always wish you had taken your camera if you don't.

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I am not really -all- that surprised by this. When I saw Clapton live, it was the same deal.

What I am more interested about is that picture you took of Les Paul himself... o_o


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Well, you can do what you feel, but all I'm saying is that I've seen many people booted out of shows for not abiding by the rules and if the ticket clealy says, no cameras, it is what it is...

I've also seen cameras taken and the film emptied out, so just beware!

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It's great when you can get close-up with photos... this is Richard Thompson from last year's Lama Tree Festival (UK) from about 10' :D

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