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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:08 pm
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To say that mayer rights for tenners or is a hannah montana in drap is jsut crap. I have an 8 year ikoold daughter, loves music loves hannan montana, doesnts even know who John Mayer. I got back to somting i said a while back, remember when he came out and every one thought that he was the next DaveMathews??? I do......but he isnt , he isnt the next bb or stevie, he is just whoe he is, and in a world of didigtal crap ,and power chord players, hes is a rareity on pop raido, some one who can actually paly guitar, just not beat chords, does this make him a guitar hero, no is he better than avg, yes, will he be around for the next 50 years who knows. lets all get togehter and talk about it in 50 years. I mean people like us that actually play know who people like warren hayes, or derek trucks is, but not every one does becuase all they know is what is on the radio, it is kinda hard to find a govt mule song on the radio


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I'll tell ya, having seen Rapid Robot Robben Ford try to do "Manic Depression" last night, John Mayer comes off as a relative true soul brother. It was like watching Data from STNG do Hendrix by accessing data banks of of all his notes without any of the human qualities.

I grant Mayer that, he has none of that Terminator machine performance quality some others have. He always comes off as fairly human. Maybe he's just the new model replicant with better biosynchronous analog circuits...


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Brent Spiner's the kind of actor that would learn how to play Hendrix note for note, just to sell the part.

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we all talk about Jimmy, Stevie, Eric as innovators, but as importantly, I always felt that the true innovators are the ones that CAN'T be duplicated so
so easily, and I say easily with much reverence to the tremendous talent necessary to even approach these great artists. One or two that come to my mind immediately is Mr Jeff Beck, or John McLaughlin, back in the Maravishnu days. A lot of guys can play. Very few can play like them. Waddaya think?


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They both play difficult for the sake of difficult. After two Jeff Beck tunes, I'm ready for some Tres Hombres era ZZ Top. John McLaughlin's fast and accurate, but no soul.

And Jeff Beck only plays when he has to, and doesn't practice. This is apperent in the 2007 Crossroads Festival. He was Choppy and off time, it looked like he couldn't wait to get this over and have at his trailer. He could have been intimidated by Tall Wilkenfeld, but I think he's just rusty (a state he wouldn't let a Hot Rod get to).

In my opinion, they're making a mistake that many really good musicians make, they forgot the audience is listening.

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Well, to be fair, Jeff and Eric are clinically deaf. And at their age, osteoarthritis sets in, and Jeff is much happier tinkering with cars and Eric tinkering with his trophy wife and kids. Trying to preserve their legends by topping their performance of ten or twenty years ago is real low on their priorities scale. It's like the ancient bluesmen they haul out of their beds and stick on a stage--they're there as charming museum pieces, not to compete with 20 year olds who learned circle picking at the age of 7.


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I used to think that, until I saw someone position Doc Watson on a Chair in front of Mic, litereally put the guitar on his lap and position his arm for him. Then he started flatpicking like it was 1948. I couldn't believe what he could still do. Earl Scruggs, Les Pual, Roy Clarke...there's plenty of old country and Jazz guys that make Nickle Creek look bad. Just look at what Albert Lee can still do.

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Yeah, check out the last years of Chet Atkins--he was tearin it up pretty good. But none of those guys are huge rock stars, they're all working men, even Albert Lee. The dudes at the very top like Clapton and Beck just don't need to keep up appearances, they stashed the cash and are semi-retired. Kind of like the Senior circuit of the PGA.

Guys like Al DiMeola really raise the issue of machine gun notes vs. soul and melody. Now you take a guy like John Abercrombie and I'd argue he's fast AND soulful. But that's pretty rare.

Kids get impressed by Death Metal shredding and blinding scales because they don't get what taste is yet. Taste can take a lifetime to develop, both in players and in the audience.


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I love death metal.


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I suspect you're under 50.


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I turn 30 in september.


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Well there isn't much to compete with Death Metal for intensity, commitment and maintaining the original intention of Rock n' Roll: to kick A, go nuts, celebrate the Act of Love, jigger up society like a paint shaker and ask questions later. Hats off to ya!


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wow....no soul?......that's a cold opinion,. but you're entitled. I think the topic was not just about "soul", and that is a rather subjective term. I think it's also about crediting an artist for what he has accomplished as well as what he may be accomplishing in the future. As for the crossroads appearance for the revered Mr. Clapton, hey, a favor is just a favor...it was a Clapton venue.
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Anyone who thinks Clapton can't play anymore needs to check out the recent Riding With The King, numerous tracks like 5 and 10 come to mind. The man has incredible tone that is phenomenal - Fender 57 Twin? - is recording very close to live with BB who doesn't screw around and is one of the most beautiful and fluid blues players ever to rip it, and at that golden era he still would blow the great SRV away and get buckets of respect from SRV because of the finesse, the tone, the beauty, the expression, the fluidity, and yes the speed. BB's great to listen to as well because that man really sings through that guitar at any age. Nobody can play a guitar better than Eric Clapton. Nobody can play a guitar better than BB King. Nobody can play a guitar better than SRV. It's not a competitive sport. Clapton's playing speaks for itself to anyone who tunes in.


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That's true, I think Clapton is in Very good playing shape. I seen him at The Staple Center last Year, with the same lineup he used for the Crossroads festival. Robert Cray opened. Rock and Roll History. They played Motherless Children with Derek Trucks on Slide, fantastic. Then "Crossroads" for the encore with Robert Cray in on it. My only complaint was that they didn't come out for a second encore (the Audience actually booed when the house lights came up).

As for my earlier comments, I was only down on Jeff Beck for being out of practice.

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