I didn't mean you man, I have interacted with you and seen your postings enough to recognize that you are good people. And I probably shouldnt have posted that but the political topic gets me heated and i almost wish we could keep it out of these forums

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I got a black cat bone, I got a mojo too.

I know you can't be thinking I am a Liberal Just read My tag below that about say it.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

They don't hurt from time to time My friend!

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

I know man, it just seems the usually deteriorate into pissing contests real fast. I am all good for debating things, but I want to use facts in my debates and not "what if's", "yeah but's" or any hearsay. Sorry to have posted that if I offended anyone.

And I like Tauruses too, and Kimbers and Springfield Armorys

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In August of this year our Generals in Afghanistan asked for an additional 40,000 troops to combat an increase in hostility towards our service people in the field there (a change for the worse after 8 years of very guarded stability- if you could call it that). The incumbent administration decided to hold our own service men and woman hostage , it would seem by the continued hostility, for a yes vote on the Government bureaucratic take over of our health care system. Upon getting that vote, then agreeing to half the number of reinforcements asked for and then putting off deployment for more months. This increased hostility continues until reinforcements arrive? Here's the stretch. Since [sic] the date of our Generals request and more importantly the date of its leak to the news channels A class action lawsuit by all of the service members and families affected by this administrations failure to handle this tragic security issue is winnable. The entire administration not just an individual or two, must be named in the document for this to make a lasting impression on our politicians involvement in war. Impeachment proceedings must be started, I'm not sure if you can sue an incumbent administration.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

You don't have to be a liberal to wonder what the hell is wrong with this picture. That said, being a Liberal does help one understand why the picture even exists in the first place. Nevertheless I don't believe any particular political leaning could make the situation seem less discouraging. Both sides appear to be lost in the search for sound footing on this issue. It would be easy to simply point a finger and stop there but there is a HUGE problem to deal with and unfortunately it doesn't appear the new guy is any more prepared to do anything to stop it than the guy who started it. It seems hopes have been dashed. One can only hope the implications of his inaction do not take on "Biblical" consequences. As in all political struggles the day to day "details" get way too much airplay and this only serves to distract the public from the underlying causes and effects.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

See, this is simply a matter of opinion that you have worded as if it is fact. And that's fine. Although I agree with some of the rest of your post.

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Good post, and now today we get the word that "Obama said to want revised Afghanistan options" and won't accept the current proposals without change. Surely this has nothing to do with the fact that he sat on those current proposals for months indecisively? Nah, couldn't be that. The way this guy has allowed our troops to be left over there for dead with no reinforcements because of those on the far left of his party and their complaints is inexcusable. We hear how he is this great leader, well the time for him to lead has come and gone and now he wants other options? Disgusting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091112/ap_ ... fghanistan

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As Charles Barkley would say on NBA pregame, can I have a few minutes? I need to vent. Is it just me, or is being the president of the United States the worst job any human can have on this earth? As soon as an issue comes up, before you can even start to make a decision, the media has already leaked out the information and now you have millions of stuck up whiners telling you millions of different ways how to handle it, and if you don't do anything in the proper time frame decided by those whiners it means you are a bad leader, should be impeached, etc... If you make an adjustment on taxes, you are a corrupt government keen on stealing citizens' hard-earned money, if you try and give people health care who can't afford it, you are a communist, the list goes on and on. It's like being a referee in the NFL making a questionable call against the home team, even if it was the right one, you still have a load of people booing and telling you to get your worthless carcass off the field. Now how is anyone supposed to get anything important done in this kind of scenario? Wouldn't that be annoying if you were in the studio, recording a song, and as soon as you play the first note, your dumbass stuckup producer runs in and screams "Wrong!," and he believes he has every reason to tell you this because he produced Nickelback's last album. Honestly, I don't know how Obama does it, I would have lost it after the first guy called me a communist.

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But the point is Obama hasnt done anything of any consequence. If you look at all the great leaders of history they all had one thing in common. They were decisive. Whether right or wrong they made decisions based on their convictions. Our current popularity contest style pollitical world leaves no room for leaders to come to the fore. Media coverage of politics should be banned, it gives too many halfwitts a say. All such types really care about is how photogenic their leader is, or whether their tie goes with their underpants. If you had to actively seek political knowledge then you'd be more enlightened than having this tepid wishywashy brand of soap opera/ jerry springer type of political representation forced down your throat.

I dont make that statement about obama from a rightwing point of view, its merely a observation. Right or leftwing a good leader is of paramount importance. If you had to compare Obama either of the Bush's or dear old Ronnie Regan to the founding fathers of your country, how would they hold up? Thats the legacy of the USA. Idealy the voters should set the bar at that height for potential premier's.

oops I forgot Clinton, well that says a lot about him, forgetable.

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No no and no

When American blood is being lost, its not about how tough the job is, I remember a security issue that was mishandled in 1993 in Somalia that became tragic for American Servicemen. Does this Administration want to repeat that tragedy? Who was in office then?

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

But he has done something Nik, He has looked into the issue and made time to have his photo taken with the Graves at Arlington in the background looking presidential. Mean while since August 157 Americans have been killed in Afghanistan while he decides if they need help. That 157 in three months is more then we lost in any year there. 288 so far this year for the U.S. and lets not forget our Friends from the U.K. they have lost 48 in that three months and 92 for the year. Notice the progression while he thinks about it. How many would be alive if he would have acted on what the Military asked?

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

CV see what I mean procrastination is the direct downfall of a leader. Its modern popularity contest politics. Get some joe blow up in the chair who needs his hand holding to get through a visit to the bathroom. Left or rightwing it doesnt matter. Our current state of political stupidity is a direct result of media intervention into politics. They have to have someone good looking who smiles alot to keep the thickies that dont have the capacity to understand how policy will affect them, happy. Neither of our countries has had a potent leader in 20 years. Blair looked like he could have been at the begining but his constant sycophantic kowtowing to europe and king (president) George the 2nd, soon proved that to be a non starter. We havent had a leader in this country since Thatcher, though Major was ok at the start of his reign. It's been a lot longer in your case. Nixon was a better leader than the shower of knuckledragging bumbling morons were confronted with these days. Right or wrong he knew where he was going and didnt constantly need spoonfeeding his way through a ever increasing amount of tv appearances.

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No no and no

Originally posted by Solid Body Love Songs

Originally posted by cvilleira

Alright, let me ask you this, what can Obama do? It is not a simple case of he has a mental block and can't decide whether to take the blue pill or the red pill. I'm sure they have thoroughly discussed their options and proposals, it just happened that the situation has not shown any opportunity for success. I'm also sure that Obama and the government as a whole has not become so cynical to ignore the sacrifices that have been and are still being made. On one hand you want to get out, to save American lives, to stop spending money on the military, but on the other, if you leave in a situation where the Taliban and Al Qaeda could somehow seize power, far more innocent lives would be lost. This is something one cannot just pull the trigger on, Obama must be patient and wait until peace is restored (However long it takes, which everyone in their right mind hopes ASAP) and our enemies have either surrendered, negotiated a treaty, or have dissolved, otherwise the sacrifices will have been in vain.

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What can someone do when facing the enemy? Can't pull the trigger? Be patient and wait while your Brothers and Sisters blood is is being shed because you wouldn't listen to your field Generals? No offense Bro, but don't be any where near me in battle, you can't be trusted.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.