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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:21 am
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I (being born in the 90s) am a very big grunge fan.


Good for you. I was born in the 70s and hate disco.

Interesting topic. I guess I am/was a fan of 'grunge' but like others have posted I have a hard time using or defining the term 'grunge'. Grunge seems like a duragatory word these days, as in "all grunge music = crappy guitar playing". I hate when people make that blanket statement.

I remember a time before MTV or whoever it was coined the words 'grunge' and 'alternative'. That type of music was around years before Nevermind came out and brought it all mainstream, but I don't think we had a name for it. Parents probably simply called it punk music.

All my 'grunge' CDs are dusty. Looking back now, the only band from that era that has stood the test of time for me is Nirvana.


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god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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I loved what was coming out of Seattle at the time. I've gotta say, I visited Seattle once in 2001 and was blown away by the overall talent I witnessed on the weekends at local venues. The music scene there had some real diversity. I coulda sworn that every band I saw could have been signed. Hahaha. Great place to visit.

I used to love the side projects too..

Mad Season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu-iQDI8oU

Temple of the Dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_LOeegqc4&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_xVBRu ... re=related

The guitars just have a nastiness that I find tasteful. The vocals were really awesome.

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for me it's depend on a good songs or not, the music style is not so important for me. so i own allbum's from alice in chains and nirvana.

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I loved what was coming out of Seattle at the time. I've gotta say, I visited Seattle once in 2001 and was blown away by the overall talent I witnessed on the weekends at local venues. The music scene there had some real diversity. I coulda sworn that every band I saw could have been signed. Hahaha. Great place to visit.

I used to love the side projects too..

Mad Season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu-iQDI8oU

Temple of the Dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_LOeegqc4&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_xVBRu ... re=related

The guitars just have a nastiness that I find tasteful. The vocals were really awesome.


wow i though i was the only one who knew about Mad Season

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Shredd6 wrote:
I loved what was coming out of Seattle at the time. I've gotta say, I visited Seattle once in 2001 and was blown away by the overall talent I witnessed on the weekends at local venues. The music scene there had some real diversity. I coulda sworn that every band I saw could have been signed. Hahaha. Great place to visit.

I used to love the side projects too..

Mad Season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryu-iQDI8oU

Temple of the Dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_LOeegqc4&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_xVBRu ... re=related

The guitars just have a nastiness that I find tasteful. The vocals were really awesome.


wow i though i was the only one who knew about Mad Season


There's also Brad, a side project from Stone Gossard, which released a CD called Shame...story is, the band/project was called Shame, but a guy name Brad owned the rights and wouldn't give it to them.

Matt Cameron and Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden at the time, though Matt is in Pearl Jam now, had a side project with John McBain from Monster Magnet called Hater...

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god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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Guns N' Roses killed of the 80's bands, not grunge bands. Everyone in L.A. was playin hair metal shreddin, cheesey pop crap and then Guns came out with a punk attitude that changed it all. NOT the Seattle bands, they in turn killed Guns who had gotten stale without Stradlin and Adler and Axl's ego inflamed. Research my friend, research. :wink:

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god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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Guns N' Roses killed of the 80's bands, not grunge bands. Everyone in L.A. was playin hair metal shreddin, cheesey pop crap and then Guns came out with a punk attitude that changed it all. NOT the Seattle bands, they in turn killed Guns who had gotten stale without Stradlin and Adler and Axl's ego inflamed. Research my friend, research. :wink:

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Metal was on the way of killing itself, but G N R sped up the process...Metal at that point was releasing the rocking first single, and the power ballad second single, and people were getting fed up...Then after waiting forever for Use You Illusion I & II to come out, while parts of it were worth the wait, personally I felt let down by all the hype. Nirvana and the whole Northwest thing was totally opposite the metal lifestyle and image, that once people started to dislike metal, it was a way to break the chains from metal, so to speak, but just totally going the opposite direction...so yeah, GNR helped kill metal, but it would have killed itself eventually, GNR and Nirvana just helped happen faster, or at least thats what I feel...

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Always been a huge fan of grunge and I'd have to agree with an earlier post that it was really the last of the guitar driven rock.


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bowlfreshener wrote:
Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
metropolis74 wrote:
Nevin1985 wrote:
god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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Guns N' Roses killed of the 80's bands, not grunge bands. Everyone in L.A. was playin hair metal shreddin, cheesey pop crap and then Guns came out with a punk attitude that changed it all. NOT the Seattle bands, they in turn killed Guns who had gotten stale without Stradlin and Adler and Axl's ego inflamed. Research my friend, research. :wink:

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Metal was on the way of killing itself, but G N R sped up the process...Metal at that point was releasing the rocking first single, and the power ballad second single, and people were getting fed up...Then after waiting forever for Use You Illusion I & II to come out, while parts of it were worth the wait, personally I felt let down by all the hype. Nirvana and the whole Northwest thing was totally opposite the metal lifestyle and image, that once people started to dislike metal, it was a way to break the chains from metal, so to speak, but just totally going the opposite direction...so yeah, GNR helped kill metal, but it would have killed itself eventually, GNR and Nirvana just helped happen faster, or at least thats what I feel...


Edit: Read you wrong dude, sorry!

Guns N' Roses are not metal, never have been, never will be. They are a blues based hard rock n' roll band. Izzy uses Fender gear for gods sake.

I despise metal, I love Guns and yeah, the Illusions were too much, 30 songs is crazy for one release.

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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
bowlfreshener wrote:
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Nevin1985 wrote:
god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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Guns N' Roses killed of the 80's bands, not grunge bands. Everyone in L.A. was playin hair metal shreddin, cheesey pop crap and then Guns came out with a punk attitude that changed it all. NOT the Seattle bands, they in turn killed Guns who had gotten stale without Stradlin and Adler and Axl's ego inflamed. Research my friend, research. :wink:

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Metal was on the way of killing itself, but G N R sped up the process...Metal at that point was releasing the rocking first single, and the power ballad second single, and people were getting fed up...Then after waiting forever for Use You Illusion I & II to come out, while parts of it were worth the wait, personally I felt let down by all the hype. Nirvana and the whole Northwest thing was totally opposite the metal lifestyle and image, that once people started to dislike metal, it was a way to break the chains from metal, so to speak, but just totally going the opposite direction...so yeah, GNR helped kill metal, but it would have killed itself eventually, GNR and Nirvana just helped happen faster, or at least thats what I feel...


Edit: Read you wrong dude, sorry!

Guns N' Roses are not metal, never have been, never will be. They are a blues based hard rock n' roll band. Izzy uses Fender gear for gods sake.

I despise metal, I love Guns and yeah, the Illusions were too much, 30 songs is crazy for one release.

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While I agree that technically GnR was not metal, they were a part of the whole glam metal-rock scene in LA...and lets face it, they looked more and played more on the metal side of things than other blues based bands around at the time, like the Black Crowes, so I personally just find it easier to say they are metal... :wink:

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I've never put them as metal man. Rhythm on Telecasters and Gibson hollowbodies through a Bassman, a punk bassist and a lead guitarist who wants to be Perry/Page and a singer who plays piano. They even have songs in waltz timing and Izzy dressed like he was Keef's firstborn. I really dislike metal yet I have GN'F'NR'S! tatooed on me.

They are 100% rock n' roll and a lot more on the Aerosmith/Stones side of things than Metallica or Megadeath.

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I've never put them as metal man. Rhythm on Telecasters and Gibson hollowbodies through a Bassman, a punk bassist and a lead guitarist who wants to be Perry/Page and a singer who plays piano. They even have songs in waltz timing and Izzy dressed like he was Keef's firstborn. I really dislike metal yet I have GN'F'NR'S! tatooed on me.

They are 100% rock n' roll and a lot more on the Aerosmith/Stones side of things than Metallica or Megadeath.

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Its all semantics dude...I just refer to them as metal, because what was going on in LA at the time was called glam-metal, though yes, if you really go back and listen to most of those bands, they are more glam rock, or blues influenced hard rock than metal, but still was called the LA glam metal scene even though, yes, it was more LA glam & blues-based hard rock scene. Plus, its just a lot easier to type out or say "metal" than "LA glam & blues-based hard rock" when referrng to it. :)

Plus the definition of metal has changed over time, so when people say metal, they associate it with Metallica and Megadeth, but I remember a time when Journey first came out and some referred to them as being metal....Some people say Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Deep Purple were some of the first metal bands, but compared to todays metal, some its easy listening compared to today's metal definition...so the definition has changed over time...but anyways...

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Very true my friend, very true.

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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
metropolis74 wrote:
Nevin1985 wrote:
god, im glad those bands killed off the 80's bands.


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Guns N' Roses killed of the 80's bands, not grunge bands. Everyone in L.A. was playin hair metal shreddin, cheesey pop crap and then Guns came out with a punk attitude that changed it all. NOT the Seattle bands, they in turn killed Guns who had gotten stale without Stradlin and Adler and Axl's ego inflamed. Research my friend, research. :wink:

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Research on my part is not necessary, just my memory is needed. I remember buying Appetite for Destruction on cassette when it first came out :wink:

Point taken though that GnR were different than the typical LA Hair Metal scene at the time, but I don't think they killed it off. I remember the same guys that listened to Poison, Winger, Bon Jovi, etc also listened to GnR. For the average fan, there was no distinction between GnR and the hair bands back then. GnR was just a different flavor of it to them.

I stand by my comment that Nevermind was the death blow to hair metal. And it was a quick death too. I remember September of my junior year in high school in 1991 all the preppy kids wearing the hair metal band T-shirt of the moment. Then Nevermind gets a ton of airplay. By December of that year those same kids were now all wearing flannel shirts with ripped jeans and asking me about Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and also older bands like the Pixies, REM, the Beatles, Bauhaus, the Replacements, Misfits etc. All the bands that they were making fun of me for listening to just a few weeks before, they were now interested in!!! All of these bands were replaced by the 'trendy' kids in my school with hip-hop the following year :roll: GnR were all but forgotten by then, at least in my area.


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