I may get blasted for this but I used to like Digital Underground, The Humpty Dance was a great tune.Im not a great fan of the genre for most of the reasons already discussed ,however I can always seem to find something I like no matter what music catagory its identified with.

Trance, house and techno are beat/drug/tribe mentality dependant. Its impossible to enjoy that scene or the music without either one of those 3 things (and probably more too). I enjoyed a bit of happy hardcore and acid house in my youth, whilst under the influence. When I tried raving straight I discovered its utter underpants.

Hiphop seems more image dependant than talent or music dependant. Can you imagine cat stevens blurting out some rhyme. I cant, but I can imagine him having enjoyed something akin to rave culture in his heyday.

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The only time I enjoyed a techno concert was onetime when a was blastered drunk. But I started to sober up and noticed how much bull$hit it was and that 99% of the KIDS there were on drugs.

i will do not mind it, it has it's merits and of course as with any genre of music it has it's untalented corporate sponsored garbage. There is a lot of truth on this thread about some of the bad things about rap (degrading women, using the N-word more than the sum of the rest of the world has used it throughout history, etc) but it does have it's place in the music world in my opinion. I have and always will love punk music and to me Rap and punk have a lot in common so i give it a little more credit than most. Do i go home and put on my rap wax each night... no, do i put it on every now and then... yes.

Exactly.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

I like good rap that actually says something, but that's pretty rare.

mostly I dislike the ignorance it preaches, and the full embrace of that ignorance that so many people do.

hip-hop changed the world, it made it much, much dumber.

The entire music industry is dumming down, don't you think? In an age when playing a loop of someone else's REAL music via sample or maybe via the back-and-forth-scratch method on a turntable is considered musical creativity you gotta wonder how low it will go before the people start to realize it's just crap.

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Just think of how awesome a guitar player you could have been by now if you had only spent the last 10 years practicing instead of obsessing over pickups and roasted maple necks.

yeah but I don't see country or rock/metal people becoming wanna-be gangbangers and drug dealers, running around commiting acts of hate and violence on people. Originally hip-hop and rap was just The Blues, just blues that sounded different then traditional blues. But it was people lemanting a sad and lost feeling life. I really don't think the original rap artists wanted people embracing that life and being proud to be ignorant ghetto dwellers.

but yes a lot of the music industry has dumbed down, but none to the extent that hip-hop has.

Complete and utter #$@*&!% $@!&.


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Me either!

Hip Hop and Rap are about as far removed from the Blues as you can get, never was.

Rap?

I like what Ray Charles had to say about it (starting at 2:45):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsiCt6TxhJs

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Actually that's not entirely true. A lot of blues is about lamenting over hardtimes and the black experience. Listen to BB King's "Ghetto Woman" and then go listen to Grandmaster Flash's " The Message". There is plenty of bad rap out there, but there is plenty of bad pop music out there in general. Listen to some A Tribe Called Quest, Lupe Fiasco, Early Kanye back before he got too full himself and pop, The Roots, Common, etc.. and not 50 cent, Soulja Boy, or the other myriad of bad rap artists out there.

Also a lot of rap these days isn't sampling or using turntables. There is a lot of ignorance in this thread and outdated information. I know people who make rap beats professionally and many of them are multi-instrumentalist. The one I know of in particularly plays the piano, saxophone, drums, and bass very well.

I think the majority of people who bash rap on guitar forums have never ventured past the radio/mtv/BET, or have even attempted to build a decent rap beat from scratch.

There seems to be a lot of hypocritic thinking when it comes to rap. People talk about the content but seem to have no problem with Buckcherry singing in the context of a rock song:

"Getting f****** laid
You want me to stay
But I got to make my way,
Hey!
You're a crazy b****
But you f*** so good I'm on top of it
When I dream
I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on ."

Yes it is...I can't listen for more than a few seconds before I want to kick in the radio.

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