Hi Twelvebar: far as the off stage behavior is concerned I simply don't know enough about it to comment. I hope that doesn't sound like a cop-out - but I just don't have a worthwhile opinion to offer. I didn't even pay enough attention to the trials and such to know what was said, let alone what really did or didn't happen.

As to the music: his solo career was just starting around the moment in my life I realised I didn't have to bother with things that didn't interest me. That stage when you discover you really can get through the week without knowing who made it into the top ten!

I guess I was growing up... when Micheal Jackson wasn't.

It's an interesting wider point about whether you can or can't seperate people from their art. That one seems to work on a case by case basis for me. I manage to ignore dislikeable behavior in some, and just can't get past it with others.

That's probably what's called - hypocrisy.

Cheers - C

Nice to have included the photo of Orianthi I thought. She's an artist the "Lady" ought to learn more about. Ditto on the Batten observation but wouldn't a Batten, Ford, Tedeschi, Panagaris summit be a kicker


As for Michael, he died a long time ago. Tragic for such talent to have to had come to walk such a stony, thorny, path.

Pity he did not have people close to him to rescue him from himself. The mere fact that his physician stooped to dosing him with such an inappropriate agent, instead of saying "NO!" and backing out of the situation is witness to that.

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I probably suffer from that same affliction Ceri. Probably a lot harder on celebs i don't really like. Although i grew uo a Pete Rose fan (Baseball, for all ya people far away,) and i am much less forgiving of him than my friends who weren't as big of fans, so maybe i am enigmatically sometimes even harsher in my criticisms of celebs who let me down?

either way, i guess its up to MJ's fanbase to decide if they should give his machine their money or not.

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