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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:33 pm
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Don't forget the Stevie Ray "Vaughnabees" too.


I used to think I'd probably get along well in that crowd, but I was pretty surprised when I didn't. There are some real snot noses when it comes to blues. I guess just because someone's a fan of SRV doesn't mean they share his attitude towards music and playing guitar. And I hate when people say that something isn't blues just because SRV didn't play it. It's like the world ends every time someone ventures outside of the pentatonic scale. Which, ironically, is something that SRV (and other blues players) did quite often. And on the other hand you have metal heads who think that playing a pentatonic lick is boring and old fashioned. I don't see why you can't have the best of both worlds and learn to play both ways.

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I think that it's great that any 14 year old can play well enough to do Eruption. I'm 37 and have been playing 10 years and wouldn't even know where to start with it. That being said i have to say that i'm a rhythm player and i write my own stuff and i feel proud of my accomplishments. So why wouldn't a 14yr old feel over confident in his/her abilities. They will soon realize how good they really are when they have to sit in and play a song that hasn't been practiced as much.


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... play well enough to do Eruption. I'm 37 and have been playing 10 years and wouldn't even know where to start with it ...

It's actually not that bad. If someone showed it to you, you would be off and running faster than you think. To me, the real brilliance of "Eruption" is putting it in the context of 1978 ... Ted Nugent, Pat Travers, Montrose. It was not until Eddie that we heard any one play like that.

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You're more ON A LEDGE in my mind! :lol: :lol:

(Sorry, had to use that one).

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Im a chef by profession, you will never a chef to say anything nice about another chef because of ego and competitiveness. It is my experience that guitarist and chefs that dont appeal to the audience will never be successful. Shredders that think there the only musicians on the stage will empty out a venue in seconds .Nobody wants to listen to it.All these guys claim to be great but can never seem to find a band up to their standards, so they dont get gigs dont make money and reside themselves to complaining about how musicians who are not as skilled as they are seem to get all the gigs.
As far as 14 yr old kids are concerned I cant think of one whos opinions I would trust. And I really cant think of any who have inspired my playing in anyway ,You have to give the kid some credit for allready landing endorsements, I would say he is motivated as well as arrogant.


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:58 am
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Okay, i was looking at a Boss pedal online once and read a review by a 14-year-old who gave it all ones. at the end he made a claim of how awesome he was and that he was "as good as Joe Satriani". :roll: He also said he was only playing for a year.

okay, when people think they are as good as an artist just because they can play one of their songs. also there's this kid at our school who can play Eruption by EVH, so he thinks he's the best ever. i asked him if he played his own stuff, and he said no.

i say that speed is good, but not everything. a good guitar song or solo is one with a good tune and a nice feel to it. i write my own music and when i practice, i play some pretty nice sounding blues, all original.

Just wanted to vent, that's all... :D

-Jake :P


I understand what you mean. It's become a race. Who can go faster from c to c. But that just shows how ignorant thay are. They don't know the first thing about music anyway!
So, relax and play what you want to play, and the way you want it!
PS I'll take Gilmour over Satriani anytime!


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Can i just set the record straight here so we don't get too ageist.

Im 14, and ive been playing the bass from i was about 10 or 11 and in the past year or so ive been trying to make myself as interesting a musician as possible by taking in all the odd wee bits and bobs from various genres.
Im not a huge fan of all the shredding stuff and although i consider myself a rock musician i do tend to find a lot of heavy rock music a bit boring, saying that on the other end of the spectrum i like to play some jazz but sometimes all the diminished chords and off beats just sound horrible.

So even though i agree that speed does not equal skill don't please don't be ageist

Btw, more power to gilmour fans


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have to say, i'm fourteen, and my friend goes, dude look at how fast i can do tapping! it's all sixteenth notes, of course. i then ask him to play some AC/DC (which we both like), and he got the notes right off the bat, but they were all straight eighth notes. He couldn't get the rhythm at all. if you want something really rhythmic, check out couldn't stand the weather, the walking bass


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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:40 pm
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j_rockr91 wrote:
Okay, i was looking at a Boss pedal online once and read a review by a 14-year-old who gave it all ones. at the end he made a claim of how awesome he was and that he was "as good as Joe Satriani". :roll: He also said he was only playing for a year.

okay, when people think they are as good as an artist just because they can play one of their songs. also there's this kid at our school who can play Eruption by EVH, so he thinks he's the best ever. i asked him if he played his own stuff, and he said no.

i say that speed is good, but not everything. a good guitar song or solo is one with a good tune and a nice feel to it. i write my own music and when i practice, i play some pretty nice sounding blues, all original.

Just wanted to vent, that's all... :D

-Jake :P


i totally agree, there's this one kid who thinks he's hot s*** b/c he can play the intro to RHCP's under the bridge....yet when it comes to him playing his own stuff, not so. Now, I consider myself to be a good guitarist b/c i sit for hours and hours and practice my own stuff. I write songs and don't sit for hours and stare at tabs. I feel your anger dude, its so annoying. Playing an instrument isn't about playing somebody's stuff its about playing youre own stuff. Any idiot can stare at a tab and play Eruption for 8hrs and think theyre awesome. Next time your hear somebody say that you should ask them to jam after school and have them make up their own riffs. Watch how bad they fail, its hilarious

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have to say, i'm fourteen, and my friend goes, dude look at how fast i can do tapping! it's all sixteenth notes, of course. i then ask him to play some AC/DC (which we both like), and he got the notes right off the bat, but they were all straight eighth notes. He couldn't get the rhythm at all. if you want something really rhythmic, check out couldn't stand the weather, the walking bass


Oh yeah, I have friends who listen to Couldn't Stand the Weather and say "oh, that sounds easy". But none of them can play it along with the CD without their timing getting totally messed up. :lol:

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musicmatt1229 wrote:
have to say, i'm fourteen, and my friend goes, dude look at how fast i can do tapping! it's all sixteenth notes, of course. i then ask him to play some AC/DC (which we both like), and he got the notes right off the bat, but they were all straight eighth notes. He couldn't get the rhythm at all. if you want something really rhythmic, check out couldn't stand the weather, the walking bass


Oh yeah, I have friends who listen to Couldn't Stand the Weather and say "oh, that sounds easy". But none of them can play it along with the CD without their timing getting totally messed up. :lol:
hehe this is my experience too. You'd be amazed how many people can't play the simplest things properly. Take Smoke on the Water, for example, everyone jokes that its so easy, and the first thing anyone learns, but how many people do you hear actually nail it, very few.

That said, you probably need a bit of as big head to make it as a musician. All the greats had massive egos, even before they earned them, and then many had egos well beyond even what their skills warranted.

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Who thinks they are great? Like everyone i know who plays thinks they are great! It was a big joke where I used to work when I started playing guitar about 9 months ago. There are 2 guys at the office who are legitimately really good players and then about 4 others who are "really good" if you ask them or have some snide comment about me being a beginner...

but none of them ever wanted to get together to play and never were available when I tried to get them to play...

finally I got 2 of them (the snide ones) to play with me and I almost wanted to call him out right then and there because they had both been several years...come to find out after only 3 months I could play more than both of them. One of them once he found out I wasn't bsing about having been practicing 4 hours a night and saw that I could out play him after only a few months, he started making excuses about how the noise was too much and we needed to stop because it was getting late. We were playing acoustics and it was 930 on a Friday night.

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Those kinds of individuals never saw or heard Andres Segovia. Those who have wear a sense of humility whenever they play.

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j_rockr91 wrote:
Okay, i was looking at a Boss pedal online once and read a review by a 14-year-old who gave it all ones. at the end he made a claim of how awesome he was and that he was "as good as Joe Satriani". :roll: He also said he was only playing for a year.

okay, when people think they are as good as an artist just because they can play one of their songs. also there's this kid at our school who can play Eruption by EVH, so he thinks he's the best ever. i asked him if he played his own stuff, and he said no.

i say that speed is good, but not everything. a good guitar song or solo is one with a good tune and a nice feel to it. i write my own music and when i practice, i play some pretty nice sounding blues, all original.

Just wanted to vent, that's all... :D

-Jake :P
Here's how i look att it. There is nothing wrong with thinking you are a great player as long as you dont bust every other players balls about THEIR playing.

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oh my gosh, segovias. i love how you can listen to one continuous guitar album for a half an hour with him and be on track 27 without a pause between tracks


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