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Post subject: New (to me) tuning
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:01 pm
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Alright everyone?

A good few years back I read a tip from Steve Vai. Now I'm not a Steve Vai fan, norr do I really like that guitar virtuoso music. But the guys got talent so when he has something to say I pay attention. Anyway this tip was on how to expand your playing. He said detune strings, put your fingers at some random place on the fretboard. Then tweak the tuners to get things you just wouldnt have thought of. I tried this a few times but in my incapability never really made a go of it. Earlier on today whilst setting up a guitar I happened across a tuning I think is excellent. Really droney drawly kinda like a banjo. If anyone knows this tuning or can point out where it came from, what tuning its related to, please do.
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Low E as it is
A down to F#
D down to B
G down to F# 8va above the A string.
B as regular B
E down to D#

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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:07 pm
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Low E as it is
A down to F#
D down to B
G down to F# 8va above the A string.
B as regular B
E down to D#[/quote]

Woow strange tuning that is my first time too

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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:10 pm
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Niki, the guitar tuning explorer! :wink: Among other inventions like the ninjanut!!
Your mind is constantly working Niki!! :)


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Probably going to show my lack of theory here, but at the nut doesn't that give a chord of B/E? (B major over E.)

In normal tuning, if I play a B barre chord at the second fret and also let the bottom E ring, are those essentially the same notes - in not quite the same order?

I'm always a little nervous of alternate tunings. Babyish, huh? :(

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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:44 pm
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Your absolutely right Ceri. I hadnt seen it its B/E. The maj 3rd D# was confusing me but i see it now.

Still its nice open with some fingering around the a/d/g strings and the D# used as a drone note.

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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:07 pm
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I have this site bookmarked for figuring out those $13 dollar chords :


http://www.chorderator.com/cgi-bin/gene ... =0&size=30

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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:20 am
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Niki I do not have a guitar in my hand but what kind of chord voicings would you say sound interesting to play around with. I always loved an acoustic with open tunings. Used to have a book that I would write in with all open tunings and songs to play. In fact I used to have the Rain Song acoustic.lol A low end acoustic that I just kept tuned to play the Rain Song on which is really such an easy song to play but it makes you sound like you are playing one of the most complicated songs written. The guy from the Goo Goo Dolls Johnny Reznik really had a way with open tunings, as he penned like 4 huge hits in a row with some really strange ones. Thats deffinetly a nice direction to take as you will come up with something that you would never come up with in standard.


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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:43 am
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Straycat I'm quite the novice at it myself. I used to use a really nice oriental sounding one, but cant for the life of me remember what it was.
Now all I use is open E for slide, G for country-chickenpickin-hillbilly type stuff. The one above sounds a little seasick steve'ish to me.

I really wish I could remember that oriental one. I think I'd keep a guitar just for that tuning. I'm with you I love em, particularly for lead stuff. It really gets me away from all those phrases I repeat.

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I mess with a ton of tunings on acoustic. The worst is when I do some strange tuning, then capo it, record something cool, then forget how the hell I did that. Tuning? Capo/no capo? Ah, hell.

Never heard of that tuning, but it sounds interesting. I'll have to try that in a few when I grab another beer, and my guitar.


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Cmon then Dgonz, spill the beans about some of your faves mate. Dont suppose you know of that oriental tuning i forgot years ago do you?

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I don't mess with many on electric, just drop D, double drop D, that's about it. It seems like, because of the lower tension on electric strings, the intonation is much more off than an acoustic.

On acoustic, I'll mess with...

DADGAD
DGAGAD
EABGBD#
DADGCC
DADGBD
EBBF#BE

... and some others that aren't coming to mind off hand. I want to get a half capo and start messing with tuning like Andy McKee does (Rylynn, etc)


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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:30 am
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Thankyou sir.

I'll be getting the tuner out shortly.

Heres a half decent page of altered tunings for anyone that wants to have a go at them

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/alternatetunings/alternatetunings.html

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I think it about time so maybe some one will answer this for me. When you use alt tunings do you still play the same notes and chords or do they change also? I've been playing for around ten years and i've never tried anything other than standard tuning.


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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:25 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Low E as it is
A down to F#
D down to B
G down to F# 8va above the A string.
B as regular B
E down to D#



I'm playing it now! I love it, very melancholic.


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6twang wrote:
I think it about time so maybe some one will answer this for me. When you use alt tunings do you still play the same notes and chords or do they change also? I've been playing for around ten years and i've never tried anything other than standard tuning.


mate i just tend to mess around with putting my fingers in different places till i find something that sounds good. Its not standard concert pitch so there are no hard fast rules. I literaly just zone out, go into auto pilot with my ears open for anything that sounds intresting.

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