cvilleira replied:


Proved my point right there.

By the way...

1- I'm a Libertarian.

2- At least when I post something, it's my own... Not cut and paste.

3- As for debate... I'll leave that to you. After all, you're the master debater.

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A fellow Libertarian! At least that's two of us with some sort of common sense.

Way too much religion in the Republican party for my taste. Religion has no place in politics unless the churches pay taxes, and Limbaugh is nothing more than a recovering drug addict and blow hard who's own big mouth gets him in all kinds of trouble. He is a poster boy of hypocrisy, not that I'm defending the Democrats either. How about instead of left wing, right wing conservative, liberal doing the Right Thing like our Founding Fathers intended?

The Libertarian Party is the third largest party in the United States.

Forget the 12 pack I got a case!!!!
WIC very Libertarian of you. I think not!

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cvilleira, you are the best Bro!

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

As Americans we should not be shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name.

We gave him the White House based on the same credentials..."

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Touche'

i know obama hasn't accomplished anything in his lifetime...

i mean who would be impressed with someone who graduated magna $@! laude from harvard law school, was editor of the harvard law review, was a three term illinois state senator, a constitutional law professor at the university of chicago, a master orator, a u.s. senator from illinois and defeated john mccain to become the first african american president of the united states all before age 50.

he has accomplished nothin!

And with all of those credentials he is our first president who didn't know how many states there are in his country's union.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

A Harvard educated lawyer huh? ……….well I stand corrected then; he must be qualified to run a nation balance a deficit in the TRILLIONS, and make strategic decisions to command combat troops fighting a war on 3 fronts…………If I follow your line of thinking, then my engine mechanic is qualified to do brain surgery.

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again, in your first post you said "without any accomplishments to his name".

so a guess the things i listed are not accomplishments...okay.

your cute little statement that 'If I follow your line of thinking, then my engine mechanic is qualified to do brain surgery" makes no sense at all.

lets see when i vote for president the highest political office in the land and someone who is sworn to uphold the constitution... i guess a canidate who has proven to be a skilled politician, an expert in constitutional law, an excellent anaylitical thinker, great communicator, and pretty damm smart is really not qualified. i guess obama's election really is akin to a mechanic being qualified to do brain surgery.

you are so right.

while this is an interesting and a useful tool, i am not sure how your link adds anything to the discussion of obama's life accomplishments or qualifications.

OK Captain…..
I don’t want to get into a pissin’ match on a public forum where we are all just sitting around sharing our opinions on a subject. (there’s been too much of that on this forum of late anyway) I value your opinion as do I value every ones opinion on this forum; but your opinion is yours and mine is mine. That means we live in a great country where we all can have opinions and perceptions on things, hopefully share our views with one another in a civil manner and most likely learn from each other.

Allow me to rephrase my original post then……..without any accomplishments to his name; (that would warrant receiving a Nobel peace prize)……. without any accomplishments to his name; (that would warrant being qualified to run this country)…… IN MY OPINION!!!...of course there are many presidents that fall under that category….

I usually don’t get involved in political discussions because people’s views are passionate to the point they won’t or can’t hear the any counter discussion making the entire subject moot to the point of wasted time. (As I see upon further reading, this thread has become)

I now will abandon this thread and find another that is more suited to what this Forum is here for… Music! And our beloved Fender Musical instruments and gear.

Have a great Day
Cheers
Bill

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In our "what have you done for me lately?" world I think this is relevant information in the ongoing debate. What has he done since being elected? Of the large number of promises made, this is the most comprehensive list out there and speaks volumes about his successes, failures, and compromises, as well as his agenda so far. Whether you voted Obama or McCain, or None of these candidates, as I did, the facts are the facts, and any debate based on anything other than that is nothing other than a frivolous argument based on opinions and bias.

I voted for nether but what exactly were George Bush's accomplishments and what qualified him to be in the White House the last 8 years? Just curious, not looking for an argument.

We need change outside the current republican/democrat box.