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It seems funny how there is always one group that like to argue there point with the use names and insults. Just a sign of the times!!!!
Rush Limbaugh whom I don't realy like should not be allowed to own a Football team but if it was George Soro's there would be no problem. Soros has hurt more people with his money speculation then many could no. He tanked the Bank of England and look at what he did in 97 to the Asian economy. Who reap the reward and who paid. To many in the DNC he is a god ask yourself why.
Wingnuts and birthers! In my 50 years I have learned one thing that is most times where there is smoke there is a fire. It can be put out with 100 proof water.

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It seems funny how there is always one group that like to argue there point with the use names and insults. Just a sign of the times!!!!
Rush Limbaugh whom I don't realy like should not be allowed to own a Football team but if it was George Soro's there would be no problem. Soros has hurt more people with his money speculation then many could no. He tanked the Bank of England and look at what he did in 97 to the Asian economy. Who reap the reward and who paid. To many in the DNC he is a god ask yourself why.
Wingnuts and birthers! In my 50 years I have learned one thing that is most times where there is smoke there is a fire. It can be put out with 100 proof water.


good post and I agree...it's always ok when the Left is doing it. When people were protesting at town hall meetings they were nazis, and hoodlums and mobsters. When the protest in Pittsburgh happened and others in the past while Bush was president they were labeled as people "just expressing their right to free speech and protest", even Pelosi said this. yet she was distraught by the town hall protests and those terrible Republicans and Conservatives. It's the classic "but that's different" argument. Big govt was bad when Bush was doing it but it's "different" when Obama is doing it.

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There you go again, you're just proving their point. :roll:


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"Rush limbaugh should not be allowed to own a football team"

This is for now still a free country.

"More wars have been fought over religion than any thing else"

As usual blanket statements like this one are thrown out as facts and yet they are indeed far from true, most wars are fought over greed.

Funny how people hold to thier little pet ideas that have absolutely no basis in fact.

Obama did nothing to desreve the prize it is a joke.

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Captain that is not my own defenition of what a Certificate of live birth is. That is the legal definition and is just a short form cert. created showing there is a birth cert. in existence that can be had if need. If you look at the link you posted from fact check the picture shows the live birth cert. and on it in the top right corner is a certificate number 151 1961-010641 which is the birth certificate number used for the information. So where is that birth certificate (long Form) that has all information on it.

Th Keyan certificate come from the regestra of Kenya by getting the information filed on the books in Kenya and issued for the use of divorce proceedings for Judge King in Hawaii in 1964 show proof that Barack was the child of Barack Sr. and it shows he was born in Kenya and to whom. It also has all normal Birth Certificate information and is certified.

You have to remember ther was even a debate as to if there was legal issues about McCain's brith because of him being born in Panama canal zone. But at the time is was considered U.S. soil.


And Factcheck is funded by Annennberg Foundation who is also a big supporter of PBS among other things but it does lean much to the left And many things that come through a policy center run through a college setting can have its own leaning or tilt in findings. And yes they are not always left or right. But I think they go more one then the other.




factcheck and the annenberg foundation are centrist organizations...

of course to a right winger like you anything left of attila the hun is considered liberal.

as far as your silly accusation that there is a authentic obama kenyan birth certificate... i noticed that you did not post one credible link to this claim as i asked.

here is a link to a famous republicans view on that supposed obama kenyan birth certificate.

http://twitter.com/KarlRove/status/3103454921


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Political organizations, liberal, conservative, centrist/independent or otherwise are still political organizations and have to be taken with a grain of salt. They all tilt facts and non-facts in such a way as to advance their agenda. Anyone that believes any of these groups is looking out your best interests is a fool. They all cater to the almighty dollar and corporate America in some way, shape, or form.


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Care to explain that? Because I believe that is a violation of forum rules.

It's probably time to lock this thread Brad.


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cvilleira wrote:
Captain that is not my own defenition of what a Certificate of live birth is. That is the legal definition and is just a short form cert. created showing there is a birth cert. in existence that can be had if need. If you look at the link you posted from fact check the picture shows the live birth cert. and on it in the top right corner is a certificate number 151 1961-010641 which is the birth certificate number used for the information. So where is that birth certificate (long Form) that has all information on it.

Th Keyan certificate come from the regestra of Kenya by getting the information filed on the books in Kenya and issued for the use of divorce proceedings for Judge King in Hawaii in 1964 show proof that Barack was the child of Barack Sr. and it shows he was born in Kenya and to whom. It also has all normal Birth Certificate information and is certified.

You have to remember ther was even a debate as to if there was legal issues about McCain's brith because of him being born in Panama canal zone. But at the time is was considered U.S. soil.


And Factcheck is funded by Annennberg Foundation who is also a big supporter of PBS among other things but it does lean much to the left And many things that come through a policy center run through a college setting can have its own leaning or tilt in findings. And yes they are not always left or right. But I think they go more one then the other.




factcheck and the annenberg foundation are centrist organizations...

of course to a right winger like you anything left of attila the hun is considered liberal.

as far as your silly accusation that there is a authentic obama kenyan birth certificate... i noticed that you did not post one credible link to this claim as i asked.

here is a link to a famous republicans view on that supposed obama kenyan birth certificate.

http://twitter.com/KarlRove/status/3103454921

This has been a fun debate and I think we both have to agree to disagree. I just believe in the Constitution of the United States and do not think it is a living breathing document to evolve to the times by reinterpetiing its meaning . It is what it is!!!! There is a way to change it and it's not easy for a reason.
This debate has dog Obama his whole carreer and why so many suits have been filed for school registration records and actual BIRTH CERTIFICATES not short forms generated by one to be made public. The media has given him a pass on anything that may make him look bad. Even when his Aunt was found to be living here is the U.S. as a illegal alien. He knew nothing of it RIGHT!!!! we still have to see how that plays out. The Judge in Boston gave continuence until Feb. 2010 for another hearing.
Well its been fun and we are just not going to disagree my friend.
And look no name calling :wink:

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cvilleira wrote:
Captain that is not my own defenition of what a Certificate of live birth is. That is the legal definition and is just a short form cert. created showing there is a birth cert. in existence that can be had if need. If you look at the link you posted from fact check the picture shows the live birth cert. and on it in the top right corner is a certificate number 151 1961-010641 which is the birth certificate number used for the information. So where is that birth certificate (long Form) that has all information on it.

Th Keyan certificate come from the regestra of Kenya by getting the information filed on the books in Kenya and issued for the use of divorce proceedings for Judge King in Hawaii in 1964 show proof that Barack was the child of Barack Sr. and it shows he was born in Kenya and to whom. It also has all normal Birth Certificate information and is certified.

You have to remember ther was even a debate as to if there was legal issues about McCain's brith because of him being born in Panama canal zone. But at the time is was considered U.S. soil.


And Factcheck is funded by Annennberg Foundation who is also a big supporter of PBS among other things but it does lean much to the left And many things that come through a policy center run through a college setting can have its own leaning or tilt in findings. And yes they are not always left or right. But I think they go more one then the other.




factcheck and the annenberg foundation are centrist organizations...

of course to a right winger like you anything left of attila the hun is considered liberal.

as far as your silly accusation that there is a authentic obama kenyan birth certificate... i noticed that you did not post one credible link to this claim as i asked.

here is a link to a famous republicans view on that supposed obama kenyan birth certificate.

http://twitter.com/KarlRove/status/3103454921

This has been a fun debate and I think we both have to agree to disagree. I just believe in the Constitution of the United States and do not think it is a living breathing document to evolve to the times by reinterpetiing its meaning . It is what it is!!!! There is a way to change it and it's not easy for a reason.
This debate has dog Obama his whole carreer and why so many suits have been filed for school registration records and actual BIRTH CERTIFICATES not short forms generated by one to be made public. The media has given him a pass on anything that may make him look bad. Even when his Aunt was found to be living here is the U.S. as a illegal alien. He knew nothing of it RIGHT!!!! we still have to see how that plays out. The Judge in Boston gave continuence until Feb. 2010 for another hearing.
Well its been fun and we are just not going to disagree my friend.
And look no name calling :wink:


i am not sure what constitutional interpretation has to do with
whether or not obama was born in the united states...i am not suggesting that a non citizen should be allowed to be president. all i have pointed out is that the claim he is not a citizen is pretty far fetched.

and has the media really given him a pass on anything that looks bad? you mentioned the story about his aunt and that has been widely reported in the media.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680/

but i will agree to agree that we will not agree on this subject.

you are right about one thing the debate has been fun.

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Crack one open once in a while, you may be surprised... :o

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...There's one more thing The Usual Suspects don't believe in...

Dictionaries...

Crack one open once in a while, you may be surprised... :o

Must be a ACORN employee :lol: :arrow: A taste of you own style of debating!

Why is it when ever someone liberal defends there politics they have to try to belittle, defame, insult, label others? Most people in this debate have been respectful in making there point. Because of that I respect it as such. I don't hide the fact that I do not like Obama, I also did not like much of what Bush did either. I am not a member of a herd. I just do not vote what leadership tells me.

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