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I think I'm gonna be sick!!!!!

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*passes the puke bucket to Jason*

What great marketing. "Here's a giant picture of Jimi playing a Fender. Now buy our Gibson!!!"

Could be the picture, but the body shape looks wonky and the headstock is hideous, it's half normal and half reversed.

I do get a kick out of the giant pic of Jimi and his FENDER STRAT on the box though. Hopefully these fail epically and I can buy that box for $50. because really, .... I just want that T-Shirt. :twisted:


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There's a picture of him witha real strat on the box O_O


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Here they are.

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electri ... ndrix.aspx

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You guys had me fooled. Those guitars aren't Gibsons!

Thanks to Mr Walley for the image link.

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What was Gibson's role in putting out these "Jimi Hendrix Signature" guitars? They aren't made by Gibson. They helped the Hendrix Family design them. They probably helped get the family connected with a Chinese company to make it and maybe Gibson helps distributes them.

Calling these things "Gibson Guitars" is a gross exaggeration IMO.

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Well when you go on the Gibson website and go under electric guitars these come up so it's clearly a Gibson product. They Have Jimi splashed on their main page so it's clear that they are fully behind this project. It may not be a Gibson USA product but they are making sure that everyone knows that they're behind it. I just don't get it. Money is money but it makes everyone involved look so stupid. Who knows what Fender's role was in this if they were even approached but I find it funny that a company that has such a small piece of Hendrix's legacy attached to them is trying to be so prominent in selling signature lines. Fortunately it's a entry level set up and not some $3000 Strat made by Gibson. That should make the die hard Jimi fans relax a bit.


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From what I see in these pictures there will be a made in USA Hendrix Strat knockoff in the near future, probably a limited run. Check out the set neck.

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/B ... n-USA.aspx

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This is great news.

Now, when Fender does a Les Paul , I might finally be able to afford one.

And yet Gibson sues anyone that even builds a part that looks like one of theirs.


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Now, when Fender does a Les Paul , I might finally be able to afford one.

Ha! Too true. You know, Eric Clapton played a Gibson SG when he was with Cream. Maybe Fender should release a tribute guitar to celebrate that era. 8)

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Maybe she's barking up the wrong money tree, instead of signature guitars, they could contact various lighter fluid companies and make a "signature" do it yourself, guitar fire starter kit... :D

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From what I see in these pictures there will be a made in USA Hendrix Strat knockoff in the near future, probably a limited run. Check out the set neck.

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/B ... n-USA.aspx


there's something odd about that set neck though, look at the tremolo routing. That's not strat routing.


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I have to agree with a couple of the previous posters in that I don't see why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. Business is business people...get over it. Regardless of what you think of "the man and his music", the name "Jimi Hendrix" is a very marketable commodity. I don't know for sure if Fender had been approached about this but if it is in fact as others have suggested...that they wouldn't fork out the cash to the family or the sister-in-law, then in my books that makes them just as greedy as the folks over at Gibson and it's Fender's loss. Further the person or people who own these rights also have the right to ask whatever price they wish. I'd be willing to bet half the people here blowing wind about this wouldn't say a thing if they were getting a cut!

Think of it this way...if Jimi himself had of cut this deal, would everyone still be so out of whack about it? No. You have to remember that Jimi didn't do this for free...he was one of, it not -the- highest payed musician of his time!!!! What was that I read...$100,000 a performance? Yikes, I say....YIKES! Beyond the music, it was...and still is for many people, about money. If you were considering an endorsement between say Fender and Gibson and Gibson was offering you a considerably more substantial amount of money...come on...be honest now! I don't like Les Pauls at all but I'd play one on stage if Gibson gave me one as well as lots of dough to boot! You betcha!!! Ya just gotta love some of the hypocrisy here...at least I'm honest about it. Personally I never met Jimi Hendrix...yea he seemed to favor Strats but as others have said, he did own Gibsons, played Gibsons and worked with Gibson on at least one occasion so NO ONE here can decisively say what he would or would not have done. Had Hendrix of lived, ANYTHING could have happened in the past 30+ years. For all we know, had he of lived, he'd be playing Jacksons or something else now.

Beyond that, the truth is we should have seen this coming anyways...the moment Fender lost that trademark thing a while back, it should have been expected to see things like this...and it won't surprise me if there's more to follow. Let's face it, people other than Fender have been making "Strats" for years. Names such as Lotus, Kramer, Cort, Jackson, Yamaha, Johnson and even Epiphone just to name a few. Sure some of these guitars have been crap but some of them have been fairly decent instruments...that really has no bearing on the subject at all (Fender has certainly made their share of crap over the years too!). I'm sorry but I can't see this as a bad thing in any way because it has allowed a great many people to own "Strats" who otherwise may not have been able to. I have no doubt that in a great many of those cases, it also inspired a great many players to go out later and buy "real" Strats...sales which Fender may never have seen if the Strat design wasn't so popular. Further, if something like a Hendrix "Little Wing", "Signature" or "Experience" inspires someone to start playing...how is that a bad thing at all?

As to the quality of these new guitars from Gibson, only time will tell. As a Strat lover myself, I'm actually looking forward to trying one of these things out...I've never been crazy about Gibsons but it'll be interesting to see how they handle compared with Fenders. I don't see myself buying one, at least not new...maybe if the right bargain comes around later though with a used instrument... But then, I won't buy a new American Standard either. I buy my guitars based on my own personal needs, the quality of the instrument and "bang for the buck" based on my budget...regardless of brand. Right now many of those are Squiers (oh...sorry...I forgot those aren't real Strats either, right?)...if Gibson can do it better and do it cheaper...hey, I'm open minded! Some folks are hung up on "brands"...there are those who really believe that "things are different on a Harley-Davidson" (like having -a lot- less money in your checking account!)...personally I'd ride a nice Shadow Classic before I'd ever get on a Harley...then I'd spend the difference on a couple...err...several guitars! LOL!!!

I could go on about this but if people don't get it by now, they won't. Just remember that in the end, a "Strat" is just a guitar and Hendrix was just a man...neither are religious icons. There's no sacrilege here people...the people that represent the Hendrix estate have chosen to work with Gibson and Gibson has agreed. Both are within their legal rights to do so. Simple as that. Case closed. Get used to it.


Ok...just my $.02...please take it for what it's worth.
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Again I remind everybody.

zontar wrote:
Gibson making a Fender like guitar and Fender making a Gibson like guitar is hardly new--here are just a few examples:

http://www.masterseriesguitars.com
http://www.masterseriesguitars.com/catalogue.html
http://www.masterseriesguitars.com/EEcgmb.fullcgb.html
http://www.masterseriesguitars.com/daquistostand.html

http://www.theguitarcollection.org.uk/gallery5/victory.jpg
http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/adDetails/337

What is "new" in a way is attaching Hendrix's name to it.
To that I would say--leave it alone.


So what if Gibson makes what is basically a Strat copy.
They've done Fender before, and Fender's done Gibson.

Deal with it, get over it.

Now the shameless use of Hendrix's name?

That's what I'd have a problem with, as he's not here to defend himself.

But guess what--it's okay to make money.
It's okay to put out products you hope people will buy so you make money.
How you do it may be a problem--but Gibson making a Fender type guitar?

Big deal.

It's been done, and Fender's made Gibson like guitars.
The examples I gave are not the only examples.

The Master series basically died when Fender was sold.
The guitars were well liked by enough people.

Similar story with the Victory guitar & bass.

Unfortunately there are people that only want Gibson to make Les Pauls & SG's and Fender to just make Strats & Teles.

Both companies have tried a lot of different stuff. A lot of it didn't work, but at least they tried.

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From what I see in these pictures there will be a made in USA Hendrix Strat knockoff in the near future, probably a limited run. Check out the set neck.

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/B ... n-USA.aspx


there's something odd about that set neck though, look at the tremolo routing. That's not strat routing.


Yeah, and from looking at the neck where the nut goes it looks like it will be a double locking tremolo.

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flanker35 wrote:
Mu51cman wrote:
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From what I see in these pictures there will be a made in USA Hendrix Strat knockoff in the near future, probably a limited run. Check out the set neck.

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/B ... n-USA.aspx


there's something odd about that set neck though, look at the tremolo routing. That's not strat routing.


Yeah, and from looking at the neck where the nut goes it looks like it will be a double locking tremolo.


Flanker,
It looks like you didn't follow this thread all the way through...if you look at later posts, there are pictures of the actual instruments beyond the "pre assembly" shots in that link....no double locking trem on any of the three models.


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What was Gibson's role in putting out these "Jimi Hendrix Signature" guitars? They aren't made by Gibson. They helped the Hendrix Family design them. They probably helped get the family connected with a Chinese company to make it and maybe Gibson helps distributes them.

Calling these things "Gibson Guitars" is a gross exaggeration IMO.


I agree orville...that doesn't say "Gibson" on the headstock the way an LP or an SG would. This is essentially another brand if you will that Gibson owns like Epiphone, Kramer, Tobias, Electar, Maestro, Slingerland, Maestro, etc.. In this case a new name, "Authentic Hendrix"....woo-hoo.

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