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Post subject: Elusive Les Paul Tone
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:01 pm
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I'm having difficulty capturing a chunky Les Paul Tone. Any tips....excuse my sloppy playing.

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:20 am
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Plug into a Marshall half stack and crank it right up. That should do the trick.

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:53 am
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Blues nice noodling around as you kept it interesting and I like the part around 2;06 where you put the pedal to the floor.lol nice licks I think the problem your having is more to do with the pedals than anything else. I believe that is a boss distortion you have on the floor am I correct. You will not achieve the classic creamy tone of lets say Slashs solo on November Rain using that. Is that more or less the tone direction you are talking about? Not to single out Slash directly but that creamy smooth lead tone. I think you might just have to play around with your amp settings a bit add a bit more mids and deffinitley use your neck pickup. Try more settings on the tube screamer and keep the distortion pedal off. You also have to remember you are playing at a low volume which is a major issue in acquiring that tone as the more wide open your amp is the more you will acquire that over driven tone. You might want to look into a Big Muff which will probably help you get what your looking for but at a lower volume. But if I am correct in assuming the sound you want then that tone is basicly a Paul right into a heavily over driven amp using the neck pickup. Good luck and always keep searching and playing with your amp settings and when you hit something sweet that you like, write the settings down.


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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:24 am
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Very nice playing.

Your tone sounds almost muddy to these old ears. Lose the FX, Lower the pickups a couple of turns, Take a little of the bass out of the guitar tone controls, turn the amp down a little and dime the guitar.

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:37 am
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BigJay wrote:
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Very nice playing.

Your tone sounds almost muddy to these old ears. Lose the FX, Lower the pickups a couple of turns, Take a little of the bass out of the guitar tone controls, turn the amp down a little and dime the guitar.


Hi Chet....quick one for you.....What do you mean by "dime the guitar"?

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:42 am
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Thanks all for your tips and comments. I really appreciate that. Yesterday, I took out the 2008 Les Paul and I was getting frustrated on not getting that thick creamy sound, yes Straycat I was going for that Slash type sound. I was stomping effects here and there through frustration and all I get is hollow, muddy sound.

When I plug in my strats, I instantly get a great tone off the bat. I've always thought it was much easier to dial in your tone with a Les Paul than a Strat. That is not what I'm experiencing..... I love my strats :D

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:05 am
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Blues the thing is that due to the nature of the single coils of your strats you have it mapped out with your peddle board on how to boost your single coils and can probably get the tone you seek on auto pilot. Now when you plugged in the Les Paul which has humbuckers and a lot more power your settings are working against you. You are right in the fact it is easier to dial in a tone from a humbucker but you were treating it as it was a single coil and by using all your pedal board you were overloading and killing the sound of the pups. I always found with humbuckers less is more. If you take Slash and Jimmy Page they have just about the same setup Les Paul with a wah straight into a 100 watt head. I mean it just cant get simpler than that. But as I said because you are not playing in the house with that kind of volume you are not getting the same dynamics.But to use Chets phrase just try your Paul and maybe wah wah into your vox and dime it and see how she sounds. Page a lot of the time would put his wah on and find a sweet spot and play without touching the pedal with his foot. See what us strat guys have to go through to find different tones. lol I just mentioned the big muff because I am a Santana fan and that would be the only pedal I would use along with a wah playing a humbucking guitar and you can get close to that creamy sound at a volume level that wont have the cops knocking on your door. KEEP ON ROCKIN


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Plug into a Marshall half stack and crank it right up. That should do the trick.


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mhainz wrote:
Plug into a Marshall half stack and crank it right up. That should do the trick.
You mean this little amp sitting in the corner collecting dust?:shock:

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Dude, You sound like you are playing a Les Paul Standard...

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Sounds pretty good to me as-is, but I do concur that the effects might be a hindrance. I stripped my own sound down a year or two ago, and wound up with nothing but a tuner and a pair of dirt boxes. One is set up as a clean boost for solos, and the other just adds more gain for my rock'n'roll moments.

What you hear in your basement, as far as distortion goes, is probably double what you actually need in a stage situation. My own goal is to be deafeningly loud with just a hint of amp OD. Granted, I don't have an LP anymore, but the same principles worked.

If you keep them, set your boxes with drive low and volume high. It'll clean everything up and give you more power valve saturation.


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It shouldn't be that hard to get. I pretty much use the same setup for both my SSS Strat and Gibson SG Std, utilizing an external multi-effects unit for some very lightly used effects (compression and additional OD); there is no drastic change in either amp or effects settings between the two guitars. When I switch to the SG, it becomes creamy crunch time immediately. So ... maybe some compression and OD may be in order? For me, the OD helps alot to mellow and smooth the tone (not making heavier, like many would guess). That along with the compression gives a lot of the creaminess I think that is being discussed. Also ... keep in mind that Slash has a healthy effects rack in between his LP and Marshalls.

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