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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:52 am
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I`m definately not young anymore but I will say this. As a self taught landscape artist, if you have the desire to learn something no matter what it is, you`ll push yourself to learn it and become as good at it as you can be. With all the information available on the internet today, you should be able to help yourself and apply it to the best of your ability. It all depends on the individual, if you want to learn something ....you will .


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self taught but i'm getting lessons soon

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I'm not young in age, but I am young in my guitar playing (Orignally a Bass player for over 15 years). I am going to private lessons and using the internet for extra lessons. I will probably start buying DVD's with lessons.


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I started in 1981 teaching myself using some of those MelBay basic books (mainly chords and progressions) on the cheapest acoustic possible. ;) Up until about 1998, it was all self-teaching and extracting bits and 'lessons' from other musician friends. Mainly, I'm a 'song learner' but have been schooled in the basics of chords, scales, progressions, blues theory, soloing, arpeggios, tapping, etc. This was at the time when you had Eddie, Yngwie, Gilbert, Vai so there was more emphasis on technical prowess with a hint of theory.

It was then that I started Classical lessons (my teacher was afilliated with the well-known Eliot Fisk) but after a year my company changed ownership and move HQ from Philly to Denver (yuck - sorry, Denverites). I've just started lessons for blues/rock/jazz with someone personally taught by Robin Trower - so it's a good bet that he knows his stuff.

It is really hard to debate teacher vs. self-teaching. My problem was that I could never afford it in the early days (thus the extraction technique) and had no expectations of going professional - sheerly enjoyment of the challenge and fun of playing guitar. Having a teacher or so for a few years is a good way to get grounded in preparation for advancing your own technique/sound/style. If you spend too long, you might end up being your teacher (not necessilary a bad thing - see Satriani's list of students). Too short and you'll have gaps that limit. As others have noted, it really depends on the person. A friend of mine some time back taught himself piano (classical/jazz/blues) and music reading - astounding talent and accomplishment for a couple years invested.


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For the moment I'm self taught, but I am considering taking lessons to learn theory and get better aquainted with scales and modes. I'd like to be able to play jazz better.


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For the moment I'm self taught, but I am considering taking lessons to learn theory and get better aquainted with scales and modes. I'd like to be able to play jazz better.


I highly recommend lessons for jazz. Most of the books out there are very suspect on getting the full complexity across - even the good books require that you *really* do your homework on modes, chord construction, syncopation, and so on. I've learned more about modes in one 30 minute lesson than I absorbed from years of trying to grasp the books (though I'm bringing in a ton more experience of late).


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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:12 am
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Well I'm self taught. I was given the initial push by a guitar playing friend and then left to my own devices. There have been some moments when things have been tough, but like its already been said, beginners nowadays have a great advantage with the net!

Then again I'd love to have lessons, it'd help me a lot with theory, but I don't have the money or the inclination right now.


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Well, I guess I'll make this my first post here.

I bought a MIM Strat a few weeks ago, 'cause I always wanted a Strat. So I'm in the beginnings of teaching myself. This is something I also wanted to do, teach myself. I'm 46 and figured I'm not getting any younger. My son got an Ibanez RG at the same time and he's using the 'net to teach himself also. I will say he can devote more time to it than I can right now and it shows. He's already getting some songs down, while I'm still trying to get my finger tips toughened up!! :lol:


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I've been playing guitar for about 6 years now, self taught. I learned notes from a chord chart I picked up when I started and had some fundamentals I learned from my dad as a kid. I've been on and off self taught on the bass for a few years also which I just started picking up to devote more time to.


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Post subject: Re: Lessons vs. self taught
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:23 pm
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lostindesert wrote:
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How many of you younger players are using lessons to learn your instrument? How many are just learning stuff from others and playing the same song over and over till you learn it?


Can only younger players answer this question :?:

Peter
ok.......I'm self -taught on guitars, keyboards.
took lessons on drums ,(A local band needed a drummer when I was 16 ) clarinet(marching band) for a couple of years over 40 years ago.
played drums pro for 15 years. learned guitar watching guys in my band.
truth was, I alwys wanted to play the guitar.As a lefty, it was challenging, but I turned out out pretty OK. I sound a lot better than I think I am....SO THERE!


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Great thread. Self taught a lot of times is informally taught. Basically, instead of having an instructor the player has friends and other players who give tips, books, the Web, his guitar, chord books, yada yada and ultimately it depends on whether he or she can put in the time and years to just play and play and play and study more and get better.

Self-taught and informally taught greats include BB King, Eric Clapton, Santana, George Harrison, Buddy Guy, SRV, Miles Zuniga, Lindsey Buckingham, Slash, and probably most of the guitar players we know or see in Blues or popular music. Generally, those of us who are a combo of self-taught and informally taught gravitate towards blues and barre chords I think. Basically, if you know barre chords in a couple of forms, you can play every chord and most forms. If you know blues scales, you can improvise and sound good. If you understand what Clapton is doing, great songs like "Cocaine" (blues in E) are not a mystery any longer. Being self-taught is basically not a real statement - it's learning from picking stuff up, and from books and charts and internet stuff instead of learning from somebody in person saying do this or that. I think the playing in time is the main thing from watching Zuniga work on that real hard, but first we've got to be able to play at all.

People with a lot of training include Vai and Eddie Van Halen - greats.


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I have been playing for almost 2 years now and I'm self-taught. It's a lot harder than getting lessons but it's more of a challenge to teach yourself. I remember about a year ago I couldn't figure out the 12 bar blues and it made me so frustrated. Then I finally figured it out and it was more rewarding than having someone show you step by step.


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hottrod wrote:
I have been playing for almost 2 years now and I'm self-taught. It's a lot harder than getting lessons but it's more of a challenge to teach yourself. I remember about a year ago I couldn't figure out the 12 bar blues and it made me so frustrated. Then I finally figured it out and it was more rewarding than having someone show you step by step.


Yes, but you had to wait a year for that rewarding feeling. Maybe it would be more rewarding if you had learned it a year ago and were much much better at it then you are now? Just playing devils advocate here.

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i learn guitar for about 2 years and i love it!


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