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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:31 am
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Music is a language. The better you can speak that language, the better you sound.

It's like, when a baby expresses himself with grunts and chirps and rasperries, he sounds like a baby.

When a guitar player who has no musical knowledge behind them tries to express themselves, they sound like babies too.

In the long run, it is so much easier to learn the right way to play instead of going through a lifetime of doubt and uncertainty. Anyone claiming that musical knowledge gets in the way, really doesn't know what they're missing. And if a guy is good without any formal training, imagine how awesome they'll be once they understand what they're doing.

Learn the language. Play like an adult.

It's really quite simple.


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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:11 am
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wow this turned into an interesting conversation


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harmonicchaos wrote:
wow this turned into an interesting conversation


Yeah it has. Lot's of good reasoning going on here.

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:18 pm
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I've been playing acoustic for two years and electric for one, and I'm teaching myself. I kind of wish I could have lessons, but by teaching myself I have more freedom and flexibility. Sometimes, to play the guitar, it's necessary to break the rules to play what you need to play, and I think that some lessons will tell you not to do that. I do wish I could learn some of the theory, but a lot of guitar-playing is about the sounds. I know what hammer-ons, pull-offs, vibratos, bending, and all that stuff is. I know the names of the frets (A, A#/Bb, B) what some chords are. But I like teaching myself.


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I'm self taught so far. But the more I learn, the more I think about getting lessons to improve the technical side of things :) . Just to give my playing a boost... and my confidence :wink:


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self tought all the way :D

i dont think i will ever take a lesson.....

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Ok, here's my plan after seeing all the replies about ways to learn to play- you guys tell me if I'm off base. I took lessons for about an hour and a half when I was about 10 or so and quit when my folks let me (I actually lasted about 3 months). Wish they had made me stick with it. I'm now 43 and my 8 year old son has asked to learn to play guitar, and he's asked me to learn with him. So I say sure and here's what I've got in the works. I've got an instructor willing to come to my home 1 night a week and give us lessons, and then I plan on purchasing a good DVD or on-line lesson package, maybe something that rhymes with bextbevelbuitar.com or whatever. :wink: I've got a HW1 Tele for me and a MIM standard Strat for my son. I want him to learn to read music and learn theory, etc. and I wouldn't mind learning myself. I think the combo of lessons and DVD-self teaching so to speak is a good way to start. Am I on the right path?

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Yes you're on the right path but don't forget to have fun playing
guitar. Nobody did tell John Lee Hooker to take lessons. :lol:
Some great bands came out of the garage and didn't had all the
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For me feeling is more important then endless shredding.

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ive learned on my own but i learned some basic chords and songs in school then i joined the guitar onsomble at school(actually both onsombles) after that i just started learning on my own. Its been about 2 years sence then. I hope to take some lessions later on. Sure Eddie Van Halen taught himself.


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I took lessons for a long time. They were useful at first but then I would just learn songs when I went to lessons, which I can do by myself. And my techer told me he'd taught me everything he knew that he could teach me. So now I just learn songs and I think that helps a lot. It helps me get better at certain things and it gives me ideas for when I write my own songs.


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What kind of stuff have you writen so far


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I was bored late last night so I read every post in this thread. :lol: I found it very interesting as we all are heading towards the same goal, just different ways of reaching it.

Personally I don't want to ever learn music theory, but that's cause I'm older, not a lot of time. :lol: All I wanted to do was learn how to play. I've been taking lessons for only 7 years, not counting my brief childhood lessons that were cut short due to Mom.

I find myself just wanting to learn songs I've grown up hearing or songs I just love. Although once I learn a song I get bored most of the time & move on to a new one. Now that I think about it the songs I stick with are the ones I've taught myself to play. :?

I'm a perfectionist and my worst critic. :oops: If my teacher says "that was great", I always disagree. Sometimes I wish I had the confidence & ego of younger players.

I didn't know I had an ear for music until my teacher told me I did. It's funny because some that think they have an ear for music don't. Guitarists are a strange breed that's for sure. :lol:

Sometimes teachers learn from students, which is good/strange feeling when it happens. 8)

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bane.used wrote:
What kind of stuff have you writen so far

www.myspace.com/theletgomusic thats my band.

and then I write a lot of acoustic stuff and some metal stuff.


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If you're going to take the self teaching road, be ready to do as much reading as playing. I'm mostly self tought. I learned the basics in High School Band, but I learned way more on my own than I did in class. The information is all available in books and magazines. Even if you're in Juliard, you have to know how to teach yourself. A lot of people think self tought means you don't have to be able to read music or understand Music Theory. Actually, you have to be able to teach yourself these things.

If you're having trouble teaching yourself, take leasons. If you feel the classroom is slowing you down, teach yourself.


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