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Post subject: planning on getting an attenuator
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:16 am
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hey, i'm planning on getting an attenuator, so i was wondering if anybody here has any experience with them?

i've been looking at something called "omnisonic" at eBay, but i'm kinda careful when it comes to buying stuff there.


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oh, nice to know!


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:23 pm
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I think Nikininja will prove to be your man for this topic... The Weber Minimass and Micromass attenuators look like good, reasonably priced units. I was looking into one a while ago. From memory, forum user Atolleter bought a Weber that he liked.

As far as burning out your tubes go, the risk is the same as if you had your amp maxed out all the time, but only if you turn everything right up. In practice, you'd be more likely to turn up to around 6 (or wherever the "sweet spot" is for breakup on your amp), which is where your amp is designed to operate most effectively anyway. You can get a good rhythm/lead sound with your volume knob, or use an overdrive or boost pedal to push you over the edge.

I'm not up on the science of it all, just saying that as far as I know the only risk you run is the same that you would take if you ran your amp on 11 constantly... which common sense would dictate you wouldn't do.


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:54 pm
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Hi,
I have the Weber Mini Mass for my Hot Rod Deluxe, it was around $100
I think it's worth every penny. I have experienced no tone loss, and most of all I get the tone I want without breaking the windows!
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:49 am
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The THD hot plates have proven a winner for quite a while (Plus they a colourful lights that react to your playing! It also Looks pretty boss next to a lava lamp).

Also dont get one that goes in your effects loop, they're not attunators, they're lies.

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Post subject: Re: planning on getting an attenuator
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:18 am
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you should visit there http://www.harmony-central.com/articles ... l_tribute/ to find your solution

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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:50 am
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Yep I like attenuators. There is some tone loss, but i dont think its caused by attenuators as much as it is caused by not having a hard pushed amp, pushing hard on the speakers.

Myself i use a marshall powerbreak. I can use it on anything from 4 - 16ohm impedance and up to 100 watts. It also acts as a dummy load box if your rebiasing your amps.

I must say If i could have gotten my hands on a weber here in the uk, i wouldnt have thought twice before snapping it up. I did miss out on one, and i do always think 'what if?' The motorized resistor circuit has me enthralled. That said i'm happy with the marshall and can use the fan cooler to spot when i'm running too hot. When the fan comes on I lower amp volume and attenuation. Constantly running the attenuator and amp at max will do neither any good. If your sensible and use speaker leads to connect it, you wont have a problem.

Their a great tool, not quite as good as just running a amp on max because of the lack of speaker stress, but i think they sound infinately better than having a valve amp with no power valve break up. The marshall powerbreaks aren't around much anymore, the thd's are good though and as i said the weber's are just awesome.

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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:27 am
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Here is a top-end unit for you:

http://www.jimkelleyamplifiers.com/Jim% ... nuator.htm

Jim is an old friend of mine. He created the first channel switching guitar amps.
He is the guy that introduced me to Leo Fender when they shared a NAMM booth together.


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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:02 am
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Jim Kelley wrote:
It’s what happens when you listen to music at low volumes – the high end and low end become less prominent. Stereo systems have a Loudness switch, and the Jim Kelley Power Attenuator has 3 levels of Treble Boost compensation – 0 dB, +3dB, or +6dB. The exact amount of compensation it provides varies as needed with the amount of attenuation.


A far better way of saying what i meant about tonal change.

Looks a good tool

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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:57 am
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nikininja wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:
It’s what happens when you listen to music at low volumes – the high end and low end become less prominent. Stereo systems have a Loudness switch, and the Jim Kelley Power Attenuator has 3 levels of Treble Boost compensation – 0 dB, +3dB, or +6dB. The exact amount of compensation it provides varies as needed with the amount of attenuation.


A far better way of saying what i meant about tonal change.

Looks a good tool

The Weber Mini has the treble boost too. Now Im begining to have a better understanding of how this all works, Thanks
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