How much of it is Bonamassa?

ZZDoc · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:24 am

bluesguitar65 wrote:

SlapChop wrote:

When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.

When you hear Eddi Van Halen playing, what players do you hear from his playing?

Paganini

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

zzdoc wrote:

bluesguitar65 wrote:

SlapChop wrote:

When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.

When you hear Eddi Van Halen playing, what players do you hear from his playing?

Paganini

Paganini???? I hear Paganini more on Yngwie Malmsteen's playing rather in Eddie's.

ZZDoc · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:34 am

bluesguitar65 wrote:

zzdoc wrote:

bluesguitar65 wrote:

SlapChop wrote:

When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.

When you hear Eddi Van Halen playing, what players do you hear from his playing?

Paganini

Paganini???? I hear Paganini more on Yngwie Malmsteen's playing rather in Eddie's.

Different strokes :!:

texasguitarslinger · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:42 am

I don't know, there a few of Clapton's licks that sound a lot like EVH.

SlapChop · **Joined:** Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:41 pm **Posts:** 1257

When I hear Edd the V, I hear every metal kid on the Sunset Strip back then... they were ALL doing that stuff. Eddie just did it with a certain happy, madcap élan that put it over.

Remember that the guy who made it famous is rarely the guy who invented it. Henry Ford didn't invent the car, Walt Disney didn't invent animation, and Bill Gates didn't write DOS. Come to 6hink of it, neither Leo Fender nor Les Paul invented the electric guitar, either. :F

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

SlapChop wrote:

When I hear Edd the V, I hear every metal kid on the Sunset Strip back then... they were ALL doing that stuff. Eddie just did it with a certain happy, madcap élan that put it over.

Remember that the guy who made it famous is rarely the guy who invented it. Henry Ford didn't invent the car, Walt Disney didn't invent animation, and Bill Gates didn't write DOS. Come to 6hink of it, neither Leo Fender nor Les Paul invented the electric guitar, either. :F

Ahh...so Eddie has single handedly influence so many that everyone from the 80s have emulated him. To me for someone to do that, is an innovator, as he single handedly changed the way people play guitar and introduced a different approach to playing in general. You can't really hear guitar players that influenced Eddies playing so easily, unlike other Great guitar players such as SRV (obvious Hendrix influence).

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

texasguitarslinger wrote:

I don't know, there a few of Clapton's licks that sound a lot like EVH.

yes, Clapton was one of Eddie's influences, but you really have listen carefully and know clapton's licks to hear it. With many players today, you can hear obvious influences of guitar players that influenced them.

texasguitarslinger · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:03 pm

A lot of people just say that SRV sounds just like Hendrix or Albert King because either they haven't heard anything else, or they haven't heard enough of SRV. I've really gotten into hearing as much blues as I can, particularly Texas blues as it was before SRV or Billy Gibbons. What's amazing is that whatever I listen to, I can hear SRV in it. Especially when I play it.

In Stevie's playing I can hear Lightnin' Hopkins, Gatemouth Brown, Freddie King, Jimmy Reed, T-Bone Walker, Lonnie Mack, Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, Hubert Sumlin, Wes Montgomery just to name a few of the more obvious ones. And he could sound like all of them and none of them at the same time! I just don't know how to do that, and neither does 95% of guitar players in the world.
That's probably why only about 5% of guitar players can actually make good money doing their own music. :lol:

So really, there's a whole lot more to it than just Jimi Hendrix and Albert King. But for some reason, people act like those are the only ones.

SlapChop · **Joined:** Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:41 pm **Posts:** 1257

texasguitarslinger wrote:

So really, there's a whole lot more to it than just Jimi Hendrix and Albert King. But for some reason, people act like those are the only ones.

The point is not, thank god, who Stevie Ray is influenced by.

The point is that nobody develops their playing in a vacuum or springs fully-formed form the brow of Zeus like wise Athena. Picking Joe Bonamassa because his playing doesn't sound like nothing you ever heard before is kind of silly.

Why not just say what you really mean? "I don't like Joe Bonamassa?" Better yet, why say anything at all?

bluesguitar65 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:56 am **Posts:** 1277

Since we are discussing Joe Bonamassa, I find a srong Eric Johnson influence in his playing and in his tone. :shock:

Ceri · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:10 pm

bluesguitar65 wrote:

Since we are discussing Joe Bonamassa, I find a srong Eric Johnson influence in his playing and in his tone. :shock:

Yes. That's what he says, anyhow.

Cheers - C

texasguitarslinger · **Posted:** Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:38 pm

Yeah, I got sort of off topic. Sorry. :oops:

gsh · **Posted:** Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:10 am

Strat0Blues wrote:

I was listening to the internet radio blues station on I-tunes today (I am a big fan of blues music) and I heard a Joe Bonamassa song which I think was called "I just got paid".

Just Got Paid is a ZZTop song from their second album Rio Grande Mud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkjej9HLKNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e4bqy-_Rao (more recent)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_g4M9C5 ... re=related (Bonamassa)

Strat0Blues · **Joined:** Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:04 am **Posts:** 292

Wow! Thanks for sharing, so it was not Bonamassa after all! Although his version is good, Billy Gibbons rocks! I love his Blues Tone. Great videos, his voice has gotten a little distorted over time and the recent version is just as good as the older version.

I have got ZZ tops greatest hits and I can't believe this song is not on there! I have never heard it before.

Pigfarmer Jr · **Joined:** Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:28 am **Posts:** 3

I just saw Joe Bonamassa a couple of weeks ago and I loved that show. The slower the song the more I liked his playing. His technique is top notch. His acoustic playing is very full sounding. His sound guy was perfect, not too loud to kill your ears but loud enough to rock out.

And all that being said, he only has a hand full of songs that really GOT me. But I'm just getting into him so that may change with multipile listenings. It sometimes takes a few times through before one can accurately judge an album's allure.

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