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Post subject: How much of it is Bonamassa?
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:16 am
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I was listening to the internet radio blues station on I-tunes today (I am a big fan of blues music) and I heard a Joe Bonamassa song which I think was called "I just got paid".

I have no Banamassa CDs and I have only heard some of his songs but enough to make an oberservation: When I listen to Bonamassa's music I hear Angus Young, Steve Vai, Slash, Gary Moore just to mention a few.

I am not taking anything away from his original songs but I was wondering how much of it is Bonamassa? I can identify when a Bonamassa song comes over the radio but very soon I am hearing Slash, then Angus, then some Vai and a bit of Gary thrown in for extra measure.

Generally the musicians that I listen to or have listened to I am well aware of who there influences are and for example: When I listen to Jimi Hendrix I can hear some Muddy Waters but the rest is pure Hendrix, you can tell it is Hendrix right away.

When I listen to SRV I can hear some Albert King in there but the rest is SRV, when I listen to BB King I can just hear some T-Bone Walker in there but the rest is BB King, and that leads me to Bonamassa: When I hear his music I hear several different artists and I am still trying to work out which part of his music is Bonamassa?

Anyhow if anyone could recommend a good CD of his to prove my theory is based on a limited number of songs that I have heard, then by all means please recommend a CD that I could buy to prove my theory wrong.

I also discovered how much music on the internet radio sounds like SRV!

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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:26 am
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Hi Strat0Blues: not interested in proving theories right or wrong. But I've been to several Bonamassa gigs and that gentleman delivers my kind of show. Big fat hard blues rock without too much posturing nonsense.

I have several CDs: the one I'd recommend for starters is You And Me. If you don't like that - I guess you won't like the rest...

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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 am
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When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.


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SlapChop wrote:
When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.
Touche!

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SlapChop wrote:
When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.
Touche!


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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 pm
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I think your confusing his influences because he is a glues based rock guitarist. There was a good PBS documentry on him years ago. He was a child prodigy at a very young age and his father had something to due with the record industry. He was playing in a pro band by the age of 16 called Bloodline which was a group of players that were the offspring of famous musicians. I remember the drummer was Miles Davis son and the rhythm guitarist was Robby Krieger son and another member was one of the Allman Brothers members kid and the singer had a famous father. His music teacher was the immortal Danny Gatton and he was into all the all time great blues players. If you can ever catch it it is an amazing documentry as I think he was even in the studio with Tom Dowd. But the guy has a vicious set of chops that stretch way beyond the blues.


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I don't think anyone, ever, in music has come up with something that he didn't get from somewhere. Whether it was from listening to music or listening to some other rhythm or sound. All the people who say they don't copy anyone else and that all of what they play is original, they're lying. The thing that separates a clone from an artist is that the artist can copy a lot of people's stuff, but not be the people they copy. That's something I'm really trying to work on. Listening to lots of different music and taking little ideas from all of it has been helping me.

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The most amazing influence story has to be Vanhalen, who always says Clapton was his God and he learned every solo he played on Cream albums note for note. Yet you dont hear one bit of Clapton in his playing.


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george lynch is also a good example of this i think - he's always never sounded like anyone else and noone has ever sounded like him


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I think your confusing his influences because he is a glues based rock guitarist. There was a good PBS documentry on him years ago. He was a child prodigy at a very young age and his father had something to due with the record industry. He was playing in a pro band by the age of 16 called Bloodline which was a group of players that were the offspring of famous musicians. I remember the drummer was Miles Davis son and the rhythm guitarist was Robby Krieger son and another member was one of the Allman Brothers members kid and the singer had a famous father. His music teacher was the immortal Danny Gatton and he was into all the all time great blues players. If you can ever catch it it is an amazing documentry as I think he was even in the studio with Tom Dowd. But the guy has a vicious set of chops that stretch way beyond the blues.



Another Steve Miller story....whose mentor was Les Paul, a friend of the family.

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I think your confusing his influences because he is a glues based rock guitarist. There was a good PBS documentry on him years ago. He was a child prodigy at a very young age and his father had something to due with the record industry. He was playing in a pro band by the age of 16 called Bloodline which was a group of players that were the offspring of famous musicians. I remember the drummer was Miles Davis son and the rhythm guitarist was Robby Krieger son and another member was one of the Allman Brothers members kid and the singer had a famous father. His music teacher was the immortal Danny Gatton and he was into all the all time great blues players. If you can ever catch it it is an amazing documentry as I think he was even in the studio with Tom Dowd. But the guy has a vicious set of chops that stretch way beyond the blues.



Another Steve Miller story....whose mentor was Les Paul, a friend of the family.

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I think your confusing his influences because he is a glues based rock guitarist. There was a good PBS documentry on him years ago. He was a child prodigy at a very young age and his father had something to due with the record industry. He was playing in a pro band by the age of 16 called Bloodline which was a group of players that were the offspring of famous musicians. I remember the drummer was Miles Davis son and the rhythm guitarist was Robby Krieger son and another member was one of the Allman Brothers members kid and the singer had a famous father. His music teacher was the immortal Danny Gatton and he was into all the all time great blues players. If you can ever catch it it is an amazing documentry as I think he was even in the studio with Tom Dowd. But the guy has a vicious set of chops that stretch way beyond the blues.



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Well I just had a listen to the brief examples of the songs from the Banamassa album that was mentioned and I found that it was not the style of music that I like. I have heard how good Bonamassa is so I guess I assumed that I would like his music, different strokes for different folks :wink:

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When you listen to Hendrix, what you SHOULD be hearing is Buddy Guy and every guy who played on the chitlin circuit doing those major key R&B licks. Likewise, when you hear SRV, it's Hendrix he's aping, as well as Albert Lee. And BB King developed his trademark "fast-shallow" vibrato trying to emulate bottle neck players.

Every guitar player borrows from wide influences, and incorporates those influences in his or her playing. When you hear Joe Bonamassa play, you aren't hearing anybody but Joe Bonamassa. Maybe you can pick out his influences, but do you imagine that other guitar players came up with all their stuff straight from their own imaginations? They didn't.
When you hear Eddi Van Halen playing, what players do you hear from his playing?

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