Strat, Tele, J-Bass, P-Bass that are the designs we want from Fender, or?

These designs and sounds are etablished.

For all other design and sounds I use antoher guitar.

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Triskele that is my exact point. I will be the first one to say that Fender is probably making the best quality guitars they ever made in their history. What I am trying to bring out is if you cant come up with something else that is exciting in 50 years (and I dont want to hear there is no point in messing with perfection which is a copout) that is plain terrible. Wht must everything be a tweaked up or hotroded Tele or Strat. Why cant there be a guitar that is totally different in every way. Maybe, just Maybe if when they made the VG but gave it a totally new body it would of been a hit. I have read how so many guys love the guitar but then there is a division in the ranks with the other half saying it is not a REAL STRAT or a strat dont sound like that. Now just roll around in your head if it had a different body from a Strat as could be then all it could be classified was as a VG. A guitar with a look and sounds of its own. Like I said I really cant buy one more Strat or Tele as whats the point. So that means I cant by no more Fenders because they are to lazy to be creative. Now I could do this with a lot of companies but I will use MusicMan as an example because I own some and have played them all. IN 20 YEARS THEY WORKED WITH SOME OF THE BEST GUITARIST OUT THERE to come up with a line of top shelf axes in every way they have the Albert Lee- The EVH=The Steve Morse-The Luke-The Petrucci and the Silhoette and a bunch of top shelf Basses. Now compare that to Fenders output in the last 20 years All tweaked and modified Strats and Teles=Boring and if they bring in great players to work with they produce more tweaked and modified Strats and Teles = Boring Hey the last thing I want to do is rag on my favorite guitar maker but I am 47 and the rush of new Strats and Teles are behind me. You guys are the buying public and players the same as I am and I just would find it mind boggling if only a small percent of you guys felt the same. If Fender released a report to all the guitar magazines and other outlets that they were coming out with something like no other Fender before, for NAMM 2011 the buzz would be so huge and people would be licking there chops and be it bust or success it would be HUGE.

So why are not all the "only genuine Leo" people not playing G&L?

No

I like my Comanche.

hmm, guess I'll toss in my 2 cents as well.

When I was growing up I started playing guitar at 10 in the 80's. All my guitars were V's or BC Rich Warlocks. Everything had to be new and pointy and exotic looking. The last thing in the world I ever wanted to play was a Buddy Holly/Ritchie Valens looking 'old persons guitar.'

I didn't care about vintage or anything like that, I just wanted something that looked what I considered Modern.

Flash forward 22 years and I'm just now finally in the past couple years starting to appreciate the Fender design and sound, (though I still play Squiers exclusively.) I actually like now that it's an old fashioned design because I honestly think Leo really hit it out of the park with this design. If I decide I want a maple neck with no rosewood it's a piece of cake to swap necks. If I decide I don't want to play with single coils this week it's a piece of cake to drop an EMG loaded pickguard into any of my Strat bodies. It's the easiest and most customizable guitar I've ever owned. I get what Slapchop is saying, no really new designs in the past 50 years. But in reality what more is there to do with it when they really did get it right back then. Sure now we have graphite nuts and saddles, 2 point tremolo instead of 6, etc. etc. But those are little things, tweaking an already genius design.

I don't want them to change. I like that I can get a 50's, 60's, 70's, styled guitar from them. I never thought I'd play a 'grandpa guitar' let alone have it get to the point where that's all I want to play.

New isn't always better, it's just new. And after owning Jacksons, Ibanez, ESP, Epiphones, BC Rich, and Schectors in my own personal opinion I haven't found a guitar as fun to play, as comfortable, or as easily customizable as a Strat/Tele.

just the fact alone that I can drop some EMG's or Dimarrzio pickups into a Tele and have it screaming/distorting/squeeling easily along with any of the other 'metal' guitars shows me that these guitars are not to be taken lightly.

they can be whatever you want them to be, in whatever color you want, with whatever electronics you want.

Who could ask for anything more? After playing fulltime for 22 years my Stratocaster made me 'fall in love' with electric guitars all over again, because now I see the only limitations that these guitars have are the ones I put on them.

Well if you haven't noticed all guitars are the same three shapes of the fenders (Strats, tele and jazz), they just make it more extreme, i mean ibanez's JEM range or alot of the jacksons.

I think the only thing to do now is to mess about with different materials, like that company who have made a few carbon fibre basses, graphite guitars and those swamp ash models. Oh and the Luthite Ergodyne guitars that ibanez do too.



Wow that looks exactly like an ibanez iceman...

Much more compact body, very different feel. The Iceman is a big, overblown Firebird.... this is more like a machine gun.