Strap locks

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

I'm glad there are a handful of "seasoned" players around here.

strato · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:08 pm

63supro wrote:

Miami Mike wrote:

63supro wrote:

That's funny. I use to use those plastic things that keep a bread bag closed. I never really needed them though, unless you flail all over the place when you play.

That's amazing!!! I thought that I was the only one that used to use those. Just twist 'em around the ends and you're tight.

Mike,
Been playing long? That's really old school. We used to color them with a black marker so they'd blend in with the strap. That's funny. I always had a bunch of them.

FrankieTheKid · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:14 pm

i get the feeling there are two different "bread bag hold-it-closed-ers" we're talking about here.
1. the twist-tie, i. e., thin wire with paper or plastic (or combo of both) outer sleeve
or
2. the flat plastic, has almost the consistancy of a guitar pick (and i've been forced on occasion to use them in that manner) with a slot and hole in the center.

i use a pair of nylon washers i got with my side-bars for my F-150.

and miami, i'm still having a hard time trying to figure out how strap locks prevent the pins from loosening...? i know they kee the strap on the pins, but how do they prevent the other thing?

rkreisher · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:49 pm

63supro wrote:

I never said you personally flail about. I never used real ones. Never dropped a guitar. Guess I'm just lucky. I've always used a half decent strap. My one strap I used on my Strat is one of the old skinny jobs with the padded shoulder pad. My Strat is a 72. Never had a problem with Strats. LP's are a bit different. I almost dropped mine. That's when I used the bread bag things. It's the strap button location that has a big bearing on it.

Yeah, there I was playing Paranoid (I think) and the next thing I knew the weight on my strap was gone. It happened really quickly. I had a good hold on the neck but the weight of the body was in motion and the guitar hit the coffee table. My guitar at the time was a Charvell Charvette, not too heavy, but the strap just slipped off the button. I was using a cheap strap at the time (learned my leason there too). Never thought of using the bread clip, but it is an ingenious idea.

RK

stratmansteve · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:50 pm

I put Dunlops on two of the guitars I use the most after two near mishaps.

zontar · **Joined:** Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:48 pm **Posts:** 2315

FrankieTheKid wrote:

and miami, i'm still having a hard time trying to figure out how strap locks prevent the pins from loosening...? i know they kee the strap on the pins, but how do they prevent the other thing?

I've only had two instance of problems with straps falling off--and the first was that one. The upper strap knob was suddenly not there anymore--never did find it--just before I was about to play with a band at a competition as a guitar student--I got to play my teacher's SG Custom--so that was cool.

The strap knob just fell out without warning. I was holding the neck when it happened--so no damage to the guitar other than needing a new strap knob and a new string--well maybe a strap lock would have saved the strap knob--maybe.

The other one was my 12 string, and the top got a crack out of that one.
I bought the Dunlop locks and have never had a problem since.

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

FrankieTheKid wrote:

i get the feeling there are two different "bread bag hold-it-closed-ers" we're talking about here.
1. the twist-tie, i. e., thin wire with paper or plastic (or combo of both) outer sleeve
or
2. the flat plastic, has almost the consistancy of a guitar pick (and i've been forced on occasion to use them in that manner) with a slot and hole in the center.

i use a pair of nylon washers i got with my side-bars for my F-150.

and miami, i'm still having a hard time trying to figure out how strap locks prevent the pins from loosening...? i know they kee the strap on the pins, but how do they prevent the other thing?

Frankie, It's #2 the flat plastic piece.

Miami Mike · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:07 am

By end pins, I really meant the screws (holds strap ends) that become loose and sometimes get pulled out from constant pressure.

Paulie G · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:21 am

Miami Mike wrote:

I got a set of these Dunlops and I'll tell ya, the greatest thing invented lately.

http://www.ceciliasmusic.com/ProductDet ... Code=7007J

No more pulled out or stripped end pins for me. :wink:

I have set of them and must admit I have not had a problem so far. However on account of them being light plastic, I would be alittle weary.

Can someone recommend something stronger and perhaps a little more permanent?

Vulkan · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:02 am

Miami Mike wrote:

By end pins, I really meant the screws (holds strap ends) that become loose and sometimes get pulled out from constant pressure.

It's almost a ritual now. Before every gig I whip out the Phillips screwdriver and ensure that the strap buttons are cranked on good and tight. I'm not about to drop my guitar if I can help it!

FrankieTheKid · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:21 pm

63supro wrote:

Frankie, It's #2 the flat plastic piece.

then why the reference to the "pipe cleaner"?

Miami Mike wrote:

That's amazing!!! I thought that I was the only one that used to use those. Just twist 'em around the ends and you're tight. 8)

Miami Mike wrote:

Yep, that was a new invention after using pipe cleaners in the 60s. :wink:

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

FrankieTheKid wrote:

63supro wrote:

Frankie, It's #2 the flat plastic piece.

then why the reference to the "pipe cleaner"?

Miami Mike wrote:

That's amazing!!! I thought that I was the only one that used to use those. Just twist 'em around the ends and you're tight.

Miami Mike wrote:

Yep, that was a new invention after using pipe cleaners in the 60s. :wink:

Pipe cleaners were used too.

ClassicRock92 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:33 pm

Vulkan wrote:

I am a convinced and enthusiastic devotee of strap locks. Although I've never dropped a guitar while it was strapped on, I think spending $2 to ensure that such a catastrophe never occurs is well worth it.

Anybody remember Clapton almost dropping Blackie during the Last Waltz?

I personally dont as its 16years before i was born but heres the link for anyone whoscurious or somebody who needs refreshing:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6buUcD1qHQ

i love this site i get sooo much from it:P( fender forums )

63supro · **Joined:** Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:19 pm **Posts:** 8827

That strap looked twisted. OOPS

ClassicRock92 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:44 pm

it was haha a school boy error from Clapton himself:P well were all human as mortality among guitarists keeps proving!(George Fullerton)

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