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Post subject: If 100,000 electric guitars were sold, the mix would be...?
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:16 pm
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This is an opportunity for those pensive theoretical-thinking brain cells to get some usage.

Fill in the theoretical ratio or numbers you believe would be appropriate for each letter. Add other instruments and quantities as you wish, guitars only, no basses.

X Fender Stratocasters
Y Squier Stratocasters
Z Fender Telecasters
A Squier Telecasters
B Gibson Les Pauls
C Epi Les Pauls
D Gibson SGs
E Epi SGs
F Fender Jazzmasters
G Fender Jaguars
H PRS
J Taylors
K Gretsch 6120 /5120


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50,000 Strats
50,000 Teles


That'd make the world a GREAT place to live

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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:53 pm
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nrt4 wrote:
50,000 Strats
50,000 Teles


That'd make the world a GREAT place to live


+1,000,000! The only change to that statement I would make is perhaps people would buy some of the other brands so they have a guitar to smash at the end of a concert...why ruin a Fender :wink:

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:09 am
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Fenderseeker09 wrote:
nrt4 wrote:
50,000 Strats
50,000 Teles
That'd make the world a GREAT place to live


+1,000,000! The only change to that statement I would make is perhaps people would buy some of the other brands so they have a guitar to smash at the end of a concert...why ruin a Fender :wink:


Sheeesh... are you guys really that incredibly narrow-minded? No room for Ibanez or Gretch? Hofner or Burns? Aria Pro II? Hayman or Vox? How about an Ovation Deacon or a Rickenbacker 360/12? What about 7-string or 10-string guitars? Or even (heresy) the fantastic Gibson Robot guitars.

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"If 100,000 electric guitars were sold, the mix would be...?"....

... horrible, muddy, with a huge build-up of low-mids, and 100,000 guitar players complaining that they can't hear themselves. The soundman would be blamed.


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I gotta admit I'd want some Gretch's in the mix

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:25 am
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"If 100,000 electric guitars were sold, the mix would be...?"....

... horrible, muddy, with a huge build-up of low-mids, and 100,000 guitar players complaining that they can't hear themselves. The soundman would be blamed.


How true and everyone using a HRDlx. or Blues Jr. This is the Fender Forum. What did you expect? This is where hand crafted guitars are considered overpriced and Fender only manufactures two models but in a hundred different flavors. :D

I like them all. Fenders, Gibsons, Ibanez Artcore series, Epiphone, Gretsch, Guild...... Cheapo guitars too. I have all different kinds of guitars. But I don't have 2 of the same model.


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Post subject: Re: If 100,000 electric guitars were sold, the mix would be.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:30 am
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JSJH wrote:
This is an opportunity for those pensive theoretical-thinking brain cells to get some usage.

Fill in the theoretical ratio or numbers you believe would be appropriate for each letter. Add other instruments and quantities as you wish, guitars only, no basses.

X Fender Stratocasters
Y Squier Stratocasters
Z Fender Telecasters
A Squier Telecasters
B Gibson Les Pauls
C Epi Les Pauls
D Gibson SGs
E Epi SGs
F Fender Jazzmasters
G Fender Jaguars
H PRS
J Taylors
K Gretsch 6120 /5120


I think that you would need one of these -

http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebOb ... =APA-00001

...to be accurate. :?

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Post subject: Re: If 100,000 electric guitars were sold, the mix would be.
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:00 am
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JSJH wrote:
X Fender Stratocasters
Y Squier Stratocasters
Z Fender Telecasters
A Squier Telecasters
B Gibson Les Pauls
C Epi Les Pauls
D Gibson SGs
E Epi SGs
F Fender Jazzmasters
G Fender Jaguars
H PRS
J Taylors
K Gretsch 6120 /5120


Hi JSJH: putting aside all the obvious ones that are missing from the list (no Martin? Ibanez? Yamaha? etc) I'm not quite clear - are you asking what ratio we think these guitars actually sell in? Or what ratio we feel it should be, in a universe run by ourselves?

If the latter, then obviously I feel 100,000 out of 100,000 should be guitars made by a company owned and run by me.

Sorry Fender - but don't worry: that company doesn't exist and likely never will... :roll:

Cheers - C


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:13 am
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In what ratio do you think they would sell? 'Just looking for speculation. Skip the real low end stuff.

'Did not put Martin in because they are all but wholly acoustic and Ibanez because of negligence. Add etc as you see fit.


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JSJH wrote:
In what ratio do you think they would sell? 'Just looking for speculation. Skip the real low end stuff.


OK. Well for sure the Strat out-sells all others. Possibly out-sells most others put together. And a guitar shop owner, decades in the trade, told me that the Classic Player Strat out-sells all other models, in his store at any rate.

Whether the world buys more Teles or Les Pauls: that's the next question. Those two are second and third on the list, certainly.

Last time I heard (some years ago) PRS-USA were turning out around 150,000 instruments per year. That's way down the list. I seem to remember that Parker sold about 70,000, but I don't know when.

I believe I heard that the Taylor T-5 sold around 50,000 in it's first year, so Taylor would be an unexpected recent entrant in the electric chart.

I have no idea where Ibanez would come. And there may be dark horse candidates such as the Yamaha Pacifica. There are parts of the world where that sells in vast numbers - though I couldn't tell you what those numbers are.

We'd love to know for sure, wouldn't we? Be great if one of the guitar mags published a monthly chart, like for book or record sales...

Cheers - C


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:29 pm
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I think everyone needs at least two Ibanez guitars. Me for example, sometimes a bunch of leaves fall in my yard, so I have one Ibanez I use to gather them into piles, and another to lift the leaves into the green bin. I also occasionally like to cut my own fajitas, so I'm considering getting an RG to cut meat on.


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I think everyone needs at least two Ibanez guitars. Me for example, sometimes a bunch of leaves fall in my yard, so I have one Ibanez I use to gather them into piles, and another to lift the leaves into the green bin. I also occasionally like to cut my own fajitas, so I'm considering getting an RG to cut meat on.


Yeah, I guess that's what George Benson, Pat Metheny, and John Scofield do with theirs. :roll: I think Satriani and Vai use theirs in the kitchen.

I guess you can say the same thing about Squires and MIM. :wink:

Actually Ibanez makes some fine instruments. They have different price points just like Fender.


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:17 pm
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And just because one out sells another does not mean its the best of the two. Many guitars popularity is do to name and pricing availabilty, Take the Strat. its price runs average from 400.00 to 1800.00 + a few even more (CS's). Well if you were to take the Strat and make it 1200.00 to 3200.00 average the sales may be different. It's the Strats 900.00 dollar down duitars that add so much to the popularity along with name recognition other wise G&L would be right there with fender in sales.
I see polls like this and I think someone is trying to equate sales numbers to quility. It does not work like that though.

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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:20 pm
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63supro wrote:
Yeah, I guess that's what George Benson, Pat Metheny, and John Scofield do with theirs. :roll: I think Satriani and Vai use theirs in the kitchen.


see... sometimes people do this thing, it's called joking. But I admit. It's not for everyone... :roll:


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