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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:32 pm
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After seeing the video I had the urge to relic one of my guitars. Then sanity came back to me and I decided against it.

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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:43 pm
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We need to start an organization to stop this madness. We can call it
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I have an LTD baritone that I might actuall try to relic. I'm kind of out of options at the moment. It came flat black. Then after being used, wherever my arm rubbed against it and the pick hits on the lower side and in a few other spots, It became shiny. So I have a half flat and half shiny buffed spotted guitar. It looks like hell. I'll never buy a flat black finish again. But I have to do something to this one. I just can't stand the way it looks at the moment. To top it off, it's a neck-through.


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YZFJOE wrote:
ruin +1

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:41 am
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Relicing your guitar is pretty stupid. So is buying those new, so called Road Worns.

It's like a desperate attempt to persuade others that you are an "experienced" player.

It's almost a fraud as playback playing, having a CD player playing through your amp's speaker, and the guitars volume down to 0 and just waving your hands pretending that you're as good as the artist of the CD.

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:44 am
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Alex_Under wrote:
Relicing your guitar is pretty stupid. So is buying those new, so called Road Worns.

It's like a desperate attempt to persuade others that you are an "experienced" player.

It's almost a fraud as playback playing, having a CD player playing through your amp's speaker, and the guitars volume down to 0 and just waving your hands pretending that you're as good as the artist of the CD.


You've obviously never played a relic, thats just not what they are about. Whether you like the look of relics or not, it certainly stops you worrying about damaging the finish on your £5k instrument. And they do possess a comfort that NOS instruments just dont have. I didnt find that with roadworn's or hacked attempts. With proper relics it is a little more than simple aesthetics. Whether you like the look of relics or not is your opinion and no one can say your right or wrong for forming it. To claim that playing a relic is some kind of fakery and means your a inexperienced player is just moronic. As much as i dont like John Mayer's music I cant deny his skill at the instrument, yet he plays a relic that he did himself. As do plenty of other 'selling' artists.
Also there are varying degrees of aging. Subtelty can work wonders, i'll post a pic of my home relic'd strat. No one has ever noticed that the wear on it is fake, its just enough to look well played.

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:55 am
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So in not so many words you are saying that you are a better guitar player when playing a relic because you are giving 100% of your skill and that's because with any other guitar you would be afraid of damaging it?

You say that you are so aggressively playing that you pity the newer instruments and take it all out on the relics?

Wow....

So you tell me that if someone would give you a brand new American Deluxe you would sound like crap due to trying to be polite to it?

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Yeah....it makes sense....

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:52 am
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Alex i didnt say any of those things. I merely drew light to the flaws in your argument. Would you worry about dinging a relic? would you worry about dinging a NOS guitar of the same value? Two very simple questions. Please feel free to respond when you can read a statement and understand what it means. Until then i wouldnt embarrass myself any further if i was you.

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:05 am
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I have my guitar mostly for playing and not throwing it around. You?
And yes, it would matter the same to me if it was a brand new axe or an old one. Maybe I would care more for the older one, cause I would have grown more fond of it and bond with it during the years.

We admire the new but we LOVE our oldies.

And don't worry about me embarrassing myself. I don't have such worries, why should you?
I think everyone else got what you were trying to say and what I was trying to say... Everything else is just hot-air

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I'm a "do it yourself-er".. Wanna relic a Strat?? Give it to a 15-year old for his first guitar. Then just leave him alone. It'll get done for sure.

This is my first guitar ever. It was brand new in 1984. It's a '57- RI, and I lugged this thing around wherever I went. All I had was a cheap soft-case for it. I haven't played it in years. Maybe it's time to get some fret-work done to it and fire this bad-boy up again.

This is my relic. I did it all myself. :D

It's got the natural arm-wear, dinged to hell, paint cracking, pickguard bubbling up, metal rusted, aged neck, you name it. All of the wear is from naturally not giving a $@!&, and just lugging it around and playing it. But I would have to say that it needs some work to be usable again to my standards. I always just wanted to wait until I found a true pro to work on it.

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I have two strats for collection and two for throwing around. Working a guitar will damage or wear it to some degree. My point on comfort and your assumption that the comfort comes from not damaging the guitar further (though that is a part of their attraction) proves that you havent played one to judge it. Ask any relic owner and they will tell you the guitars feel worn in, not worn out. At the moment I dont own a relic (its a toss up between a 58 or a 56 time machine), I have formed a opinion based on trying six of them at various times for prolonged duration. Not just having a twiddle in some shop.

This thread isnt even about some infantile relic bashing club. Its about how not to relic a guitar. Therin lies your hot air.

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I think, I'm just going to consider myself lucky in that my guitar is still repairable. Some fret-work, a new nut, and maybe some pot changing and I should be good to go.

In my case, I can remember where some of the dings came from and I felt the pain along with the guitar.. So this one is extra special to me. It's my first guitar, and I still have high school memories with it. It's the guitar that got me my nickname when I was a teenager.

It would be cheaper for me to fix mine than to buy a new Relic, and yea, it would definitely feel worn in to me. It would be a nice conversation piece. I don't know how you would go about re-creating the cracked paint. Mine is cracking all over the place. But I don't care.

I actually don't mind the Relic Fenders, I think it's a cool and creative idea. As long as they're functional, I can see how people would want them.

I'm gonna have to say, for me, personally, buying a new $2,000 + guitar that is pristine would only freak me out. I'd never want to take it out to gigs. I'd be a nervous wreck. I buy $100-$200 Pawn-Shop specials and customize them with the pickups I like, and give them a good intonation etc.. setup. As long as the neck has a good feel, I'm cool with it. If they get a little dinged up, so be it.


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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:51 am
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The guy in the video is a guitar expert? I wouldn't let him near any of my guitars. A perfectly good Tele ruined, sad stuff imho.


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