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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:50 pm
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I would love to see a unit that can loose the tension of two strings and be able to compansate for the lose of tension. And how it can adjust itself accordingly by which two strings or even string and its location along the trem :shock: since various strings have defferent tension levels even the same size made differently vary. :wink:

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Believe it or not, all 6 strings have very nearly the same tension.
If they were all the same diameter, there would certainly be a difference in tension. But the string diameter was apparently designed around the need for similar tensions. You can tell with your eyes closed if you test like this: Push down on all 6 simultaneously with your palm. The high E doesn't go to the fretboard any easier than the Low E. Least not much.
Very close. Something I accidently discovered along the way with tension gauges...

But that really has nothing to do with MY setup. Mine is a whole new species. VERY different. Wish I could go into it more but a little hesitant to give anything away till I get some kind of deal worked out. But yes, I can break the lightest 4 strings with less change than a standard Floyd Rose on the low E.

Very different.


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Big Jay - THAT's the kinda help I need.

If it's Rose, she's been too busy to answer my messages. But coming from someone she knows may get a much different response...

Crossing fingers here but due to my experiences, please forgive me if I don't get toooo excited.

And if it all works out, I'll find a way to repay the favor...


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I was meaning that lose of different strigs along the bridge are going to cause the bridge to react differently. Losing the high E is going to be different on the trem then losing the low E because the tension lose is on opposite sides. The angle of tension will differ.
Also sting tension does vary between strings I think it can be as much as 1 kg.

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I have never noticed the bridge to react differently due to a broken string. Now YES, if you actually manage to break the D,G,B and E and have just 2 strings hanging on 1 side, I sure playing would be rather difficult. The bridge would likely pull off the 2 posts.
That could be handled easy enough with a hinge permanently connected between the 2 posts and then to the base plate if it was deemed necessary. I have seen trems with hinges connected like that. But I figure most people will trade out guitars (if on stage) after a single string breaks or at worst 2 of them.
Again, on THIS thing, 1 string has basically no effect on the others.
It's a mutant.


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Update - for what it's worth...

A Fender rep was in town this weekend at a new guitar show so I went.

Talked with Mike Edmonds about all this - did NOT show the guitar although it was in the truck.

In short he said all he knew to do was ask for the Legal Dept through the Fender switchboard, as everything has to go through legal first.

I THINK I already did that - to no avail - but I'll give it another shot Monday...


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2 of those parts makers were in the group of 4 that responded.
Neither good.

Never found good contact info for Kahler/Wilkinson


I actually see Floyd Rose as a competitor - more so than the rest.
Due to that, I have not tried to contact him at all. I believe he would see me as trying to take business from him. - which I AM.

Lot of other stuff to do Monday but I will try Legal at Fender first chance I get. Almost WANT them to say "no" so I can go ahead with the 1 offer I received. But then there's still Ibanez...


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Another update.

Just got off the phone with the legal department. I was told ALL new inventions had to go through the marketing department. Rose Bishop is the person in charge.

Legal left an Email for Rose to contact me, though Rose has had my information for 3 months already...


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Tis true.

But since I got into all this due to my frustration with the FR units, I somehow feel that teaming up with him would be selling out.

Further - he actaully MAKES very few bridges these days. Most everything you see is "licensed" Floyd Rose products - meaning Fender, or whoever, builds them. Why should he get a cut for something he didn't have anything to do with?

True, it could get my foot in the door but somethings are more important than money.

I could have gotten an Engineering job years ago where I work if I would have told the hiring manager I knew EVERY engineer under him. I didn't, nor did I tell my 7 engineer buddies I was interviewing for the job. In the end, I didn't GET the job. No problem. I don't OWE anybody.

Just the way I was raised...

If you HATE your present government, do you team up with them to change their way of thinking? Or vote for the other guys?

But I CERTAINLY see your point.


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