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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:02 pm
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I love watching the news on TV, reading newspapers, etc. so when one of the storied journalists in our nation's history dies I think it worth a moment of silence.

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/17/walter ... index.html

I know the news isn't guitar-related but I thought people might want to know. I've gotten some of my news here first before.

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R.I.P. Walter.

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WOW… don’t I feel stupid…. I thought he had been dead for some time…. Must be thinking of some one else I guess….

I try not to watch The News; seems to slanted to me almost corporate mind control and never anything positive.

Is it just me or has it been a real bad summer for celebrities?

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He was one of the good ones...

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Yeah, I heard around 9 on FOX while working out.

At least we have Nancy Grace. :roll:


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I think Debbie Schlussel says it best.
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I just heard the news that former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite died. And perhaps I will be one of the few with the guts to be real and say it: I'm not sad to see this overrated liar go. Buh-bye.

Cronkite enjoyed a long and glamorous life, unlike many of our late teen and 20-something American troops against whom he editorialized on a nightly basis. They died on the killing fields of Vietnam in no small part because he contributed to the video demoralization of America and the resulting lack of commitment to help our boys win the Vietnam War.

I'm sure that Cronkite will be remembered gushingly by all of the liberal mainstream media robots whom he spawned and who idolize him (and probably many gutless idiots on the right, too). In so many ways, he is their Michael Jackson, minus the creativity and talent. In life, they already exalted Cronkite far, far beyond what he deserved and completely ignored his awful transgressions against our country
But the man they called "The Most Trusted Man in America" was really something far different: The Most Destructive Man in America. And that is how he should be remembered. He had the blood of thousands of American men--some of them really just boys--on his hands.

We may have lost the Vietnam War on the ground because of half-hearted bureaucrats and politicians, not least among them Defense Secretary Robert McNamara who also recently passed away. But, well before that, we lost the war in a far more important theater--domestic America--because Vietnam's top media general on TV, Walter Cronkite, led many offensives against our troops, every single evening.

Cronkite fought against America while in Vietnam, where he covered the Tet Offensive and lied about it to American wives, parents, and siblings of our boys on the battlefield. While the 1968 Tet Offensive was actually a victory--a tactical defeat for the Communist Viet Cong--you'd hardly know it, since Cronkite covered it as an incredible loss and gave fuel for the anti-war movement's fire and its allies in the Congress and in Hollywood (Hanoi Jane, anyone?).

And it is in Cronkite's coverage of Tet that America lost the Vietnam War. Most military historians regard it as the decisive battle in the war because it shifted American public opinion against the war. And Cronkite is the head atop that rotten fish.

A month later, instead of just "covering the news" in this constant lying manner, Cronkite began editorializing and delivered a scathing commentary against America's war efforts.

Cronkite's slogan was, "And that's the way it is." But if it came out of his mouth, you could be sure of one thing: that's the way it wasn't.

The left idolizes this man because they credit him with helping end the Vietnam War. But let's be honest. He didn't help end it. He helped lose it. We eventually lost it on the field because we lost it on television, first. Vietnam was the first American war shown nightly on television news. And Cronkite was the Just Lose It crowd's Commander in Chief in that theater.

Our half-hearted efforts in Vietnam, in large part because of Walter Cronkite's on-air attacks, have had long-lasting effects, decades later. Even Osama Bin Laden has cited them in his lack of fear in attacking America. He studied our military history, with Vietnam as its cornerstone of cutting and running. That is Walter Cronkite's legacy. So are the generations of liars who modeled themselves after him and have spent decades on TV news tearing and dumbing down America from within.

I can't be nice and say that Walter Cronkite should "rest in peace."

To do so would be to ignore the posthumous wails of the restless ghosts of over 58,000 dead Americans who lost their lives so that Walter Cronkite could be a star and Vietnam could solidify its communist tilt. That's not to mention our 153,000-plus wounded.

It is the souls of these proud Americans that I pray rest in peace, not that of the man who helped perpetrate their loss. He is soulless.

Only they--Walter Cronkite's tens of thousands of victims--can forgive this evil man for his transgressions and journalistic crimes against them. Sadly for Cronkite, they've gone to a better place.

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Even this year we have had over 100 killed in Iraq and 110 in Afganistan which is on a pace to be the deadliest year there since the start. We hear nothing on the news because it has been done on the watch of the present Administration. It is not politicaly correct to talk about it now days. Bush is gone!

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cvilleira wrote:
I think Debbie Schlussel says it best.
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I just heard the news that former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite died. And perhaps I will be one of the few with the guts to be real and say it: I'm not sad to see this overrated liar go. Buh-bye.

Cronkite enjoyed a long and glamorous life, unlike many of our late teen and 20-something American troops against whom he editorialized on a nightly basis. They died on the killing fields of Vietnam in no small part because he contributed to the video demoralization of America and the resulting lack of commitment to help our boys win the Vietnam War.

I'm sure that Cronkite will be remembered gushingly by all of the liberal mainstream media robots whom he spawned and who idolize him (and probably many gutless idiots on the right, too). In so many ways, he is their Michael Jackson, minus the creativity and talent. In life, they already exalted Cronkite far, far beyond what he deserved and completely ignored his awful transgressions against our country
But the man they called "The Most Trusted Man in America" was really something far different: The Most Destructive Man in America. And that is how he should be remembered. He had the blood of thousands of American men--some of them really just boys--on his hands.

We may have lost the Vietnam War on the ground because of half-hearted bureaucrats and politicians, not least among them Defense Secretary Robert McNamara who also recently passed away. But, well before that, we lost the war in a far more important theater--domestic America--because Vietnam's top media general on TV, Walter Cronkite, led many offensives against our troops, every single evening.

Cronkite fought against America while in Vietnam, where he covered the Tet Offensive and lied about it to American wives, parents, and siblings of our boys on the battlefield. While the 1968 Tet Offensive was actually a victory--a tactical defeat for the Communist Viet Cong--you'd hardly know it, since Cronkite covered it as an incredible loss and gave fuel for the anti-war movement's fire and its allies in the Congress and in Hollywood (Hanoi Jane, anyone?).

And it is in Cronkite's coverage of Tet that America lost the Vietnam War. Most military historians regard it as the decisive battle in the war because it shifted American public opinion against the war. And Cronkite is the head atop that rotten fish.

A month later, instead of just "covering the news" in this constant lying manner, Cronkite began editorializing and delivered a scathing commentary against America's war efforts.

Cronkite's slogan was, "And that's the way it is." But if it came out of his mouth, you could be sure of one thing: that's the way it wasn't.

The left idolizes this man because they credit him with helping end the Vietnam War. But let's be honest. He didn't help end it. He helped lose it. We eventually lost it on the field because we lost it on television, first. Vietnam was the first American war shown nightly on television news. And Cronkite was the Just Lose It crowd's Commander in Chief in that theater.

Our half-hearted efforts in Vietnam, in large part because of Walter Cronkite's on-air attacks, have had long-lasting effects, decades later. Even Osama Bin Laden has cited them in his lack of fear in attacking America. He studied our military history, with Vietnam as its cornerstone of cutting and running. That is Walter Cronkite's legacy. So are the generations of liars who modeled themselves after him and have spent decades on TV news tearing and dumbing down America from within.

I can't be nice and say that Walter Cronkite should "rest in peace."

To do so would be to ignore the posthumous wails of the restless ghosts of over 58,000 dead Americans who lost their lives so that Walter Cronkite could be a star and Vietnam could solidify its communist tilt. That's not to mention our 153,000-plus wounded.

It is the souls of these proud Americans that I pray rest in peace, not that of the man who helped perpetrate their loss. He is soulless.

Only they--Walter Cronkite's tens of thousands of victims--can forgive this evil man for his transgressions and journalistic crimes against them. Sadly for Cronkite, they've gone to a better place.

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Just My Milatary Family background showing itself ( My Dad till his last day and POP) Also the U.S Madal of Honour Winners I have had the privalage to meet and all the other Brave Milatary is why I see the disjustice that has been done by the media.
Even this year we have had over 100 killed in Iraq and 110 in Afganistan which is on a pace to be the deadliest year there since the start. We hear nothing on the news because it has been done on the watch of the present Administration. It is not politicaly correct to talk about it now days. Bush is gone!


Well spoken.........

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ANd the Summer of Death keps going. RIP Mr. Cronkite. I grew up watching you on the news. You will be sorely missed. And that was the way it was.

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Cronkite's death is a tragedy: although the golden age of television newsreaders was past long before my conception, even a young man such as myself can appreciate his importance.

My defining memory - and one shared by many, many people - is watching the (taped) coverage of the Apollo 11 landing from July 20, 1969, 40 years ago this week. If you've seen it, you'll understand my reference to the moment where Cronkite, the man who had words for everything, was seemingly devoid of anything to say. A beautiful pause: he had become, in his own way, a part of history. The entirety of the Apollo program and, for that matter, Gemini and Mercury as well, is inextricably tied to Cronkite. Tapes of his coverage are relics now, but will always be appreciated by space program aficionados and those who were there.

He was truly an icon in the history of our world, the American nation, and the realm of multimedia.


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R.I.P. Walter...

(Debbie Schlussel is an $@!&#*% by the way... what would she know about Vietnam or Walter Cronkite?... she was born in 1969...)

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dbrodie wrote:
R.I.P. Walter...

(Debbie Schlussel is an $@!&#*%...)

As was Walter!!!!
The most trusted joke. The U.S. Did not lose the TET offensive but after that Walter decided he was going to disaprove and join the VC.
A little history about the TET offensive. The Tet offensive was a military failure—for the North Vietnamese. North Vietnam failed to take any major South Vietnamese city except for Hue, from which they were ejected within a month—but not until after massacring over 3,000 South Vietnamese civilians, an episode only lightly reported by the media. Except for Khe Sanh, Hue, and one or two other locations, the enemy offensive was spent within a few days. By the end of February Hanoi was ordering a general retreat, which ironically happened to coincide with the moment of maximum pessimism in Washington. Out of a total attack force of 84,000 troops, nearly 50,000 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were killed in Tet. These losses decimated the Viet Cong, destroying their command structure and morale among troops. Viet Cong offensive capabilities suffered and dwindled for the next three years; much of the rest of the war was fought by North Vietnamese regular army troops. Viet Cong defections increased dramatically in the aftermath of Tet. The U.S. suffered 1,100 dead; the South Vietnamese lost 2,300. Indeed it can be argued that General Giap botched the attack; having achieved tactical surprise, the attack was dispersed too widely, with not enough troops in any one location to score decisively.



Three years ago in the Texas Monthly interview Walter said.
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And my story coming out, Tet Offensive, saying that we ought to get out of there was a highlight of my career certainly, a very important highlight.
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Rest easy, Mr Cronkite.

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Sad news, but honestly, I thought he passed away a few years ago...

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This observation is derived from an interview with General William Westermoreland I witnessed many years ago. Way before Tet, with the enemy beaten back across the river to Hanoi, and the South relatively secured. Westmoreland asked Johnson what he wanted him to do next. Johnson told Westmoreland that he wanted him to win the war. Westmoreland told Johnson that, in order to do so, the river had to be crossed. Johnson refused fearing a wider war with China. Cronkite's opining had no part in that nor the outcome. Johnson, a tried and true Texas rancher. hogtied Westmoreland. The necessary go for broke never happened. You can't win a war you're not willing to fight.

The rest is history.

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