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Post subject: Re: Jimi Hendrix Factoid
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:09 am
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Jimi Hendrix could not read or write music!

What the hell are you doing Chet? Doesn't seem like something to come from you.. No offense meant
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I watched a show on the Ovation Channel last night about Jimi Hendrix coming to the U.S. for the Monterey Pop Festival and the host mentioned that Jimi could not read or write music and it just stuck in my head. I had not remembered ever hearing that fact and thought I would share it.


Was this perhaps the same interview in the Experience's Monterrey Pop Festival DVD? I seem to recall that tidbit being in there. It's a great DVD by the way.

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yea hendrix supposedly thought of music as object or color oriented. he used to tell his session musicians in studio stuff like "make it sound like the ocean"

have to admit it was probably the drugs talking in his music half the time


See synesthesia.


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atolleter wrote:
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yea hendrix supposedly thought of music as object or color oriented. he used to tell his session musicians in studio stuff like "make it sound like the ocean"

have to admit it was probably the drugs talking in his music half the time


See synesthesia.


Indeed. Many of us have a touch of that. For me numbers have colors, and chords (but not notes) do too. Am is a kind of mid-green and E major and minor are different shades of dark blue, for example.

And honestly, no drugs involved!

:D - C


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Jimi...before 'The Experience' (and obviously the Strat) :

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Post subject: Re: Jimi Hendrix Factoid
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:04 am
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CAFeathers wrote:
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Jimi Hendrix could not read or write music!

What the hell are you doing Chet? Doesn't seem like something to come from you.. No offense meant
What's the purpose of this?


I watched a show on the Ovation Channel last night about Jimi Hendrix coming to the U.S. for the Monterey Pop Festival and the host mentioned that Jimi could not read or write music and it just stuck in my head. I had not remembered ever hearing that fact and thought I would share it.

That makes sense, I just imagined a guy like you knew that
I believe it's been said quite a few times on here lately

Wouldn't it be fun to make a list of well accomplished musiscians that CAN read and write music? I'm not really sure I can name any

Edit: I don't think Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles could read music either :lol:


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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:36 am
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Time-Machine wrote:
CAFeathers wrote:
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CAFeathers wrote:
Jimi Hendrix could not read or write music!

What the hell are you doing Chet? Doesn't seem like something to come from you.. No offense meant
What's the purpose of this?


I watched a show on the Ovation Channel last night about Jimi Hendrix coming to the U.S. for the Monterey Pop Festival and the host mentioned that Jimi could not read or write music and it just stuck in my head. I had not remembered ever hearing that fact and thought I would share it.

That makes sense, I just imagined a guy like you knew that
I believe it's been said quite a few times on here lately

Wouldn't it be fun to make a list of well accomplished musiscians that CAN read and write music? I'm not really sure I can name any

Edit: I don't think Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles could read music either :lol:


I remember hearing Ray Charles could read music in braille.

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yea hendrix supposedly thought of music as object or color oriented. he used to tell his session musicians in studio stuff like "make it sound like the ocean"

have to admit it was probably the drugs talking in his music half the time


That's not true, he asked Eddie Kramer if he could make a track 'sound like the ocean'. Kramer used this effect on Axis: Bold as Love , a phased stereo sound.

In fact Jimi knew a lot of fretboard theory, I've seen his handwritten lyrics http://tinyurl.com/maxll4 where he writes the chord over the song's segment.

Ok, here's s factoid, 'The Wind Cries Mary' lyric line:
"and the clowns have all gone to bed,", refers to the clown test pattern that the BBC would show when they ended the day's broadcasting.

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I didn't know whether Jimi read music or not either, so thanks for the info. He was James Brown's guitarist for a while and for that matter, a lot of the early rock legends had more formal training than many people realize. So I always supposed it was possible that he read/wrote, if not something that came into play when he was on his own.

In jazz, same deal ... not all the greats could/can read or write music while others have a high degree of technical mastery. Are those less creative than the artists who play by ear or feeling? I don't know ... a blind study to determine that might be an interesting project for someone considering a Ph.D. in Music. But for me, I'll just sit back and enjoy whether the person reads or not.

When people at work as me if it's really important that their son or daughter learn to read and some theory, I always hedge. If they're just going to be in a band with friends or maybe have a terrifc ear and their career goals have nothing to do with music, probably not.

But if your goal is a career in music and you're not banking everything on becoming a rock star or that rare first call studio player with such a good ear that you don't need to read ... it's a useful skill. There is studio work (mostly in rock) for non-readers, but most such work as well as in orchestras, formal bands, etc. requires reading.


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Post subject: Jimi Hendris reading music
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:29 pm
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He would look like a nerd with a music stand on stage holding his sheet music anyway, good thing he could play by ear.

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He was James Brown's guitarist for a while
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Jimi never played for James Brown, JB would have fired him after one show. I know Bootsy Collins and he told me that JB was a hard bandmaster.

I took la few lessons for George Benson, we talked about reading music, he could, but he also mentioned that his idol, Wes Montgomery couldn't read music, he could learn complex melodies and riffs by ear.

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A factoid I like about Hendrix is that his full name was James Marshall Hendrix. That middle name tells me what I need to know!

Another curious factoid on the same lines is that his name at birth was Johnny Allen Hendrix. His father changed it later to James Marshall in memory of his deceased brother, Leon Marshall Hendrix.

And his childhood nickname was Buster, not Jimi.

Complicated, huh?

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Actually, Ceri, this isnt entirely true. His second name was James Marshall Hendricks, not Hendrix.

He didnt become Jimi Hendrix until they formed The Experience. Its was a stage name designed to be unique and cool.


Well, do you know? I was wondering about that. But a quick glance at Wikipedia to check appeared to suggest it was Hendrix from the start, so that was what I put.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix

I have no doubt at all that you are right and Wiki is wrong - again!

Cheers - C

PS Also, might philip602 have written James Brown (above) when he meant Little Richard? That's a pretty understandable mistake - if mistake it was.


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Although Jimi played left-handed, he was ambidextrous, able to play equally left or right handed.


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