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I don't know if I've ever "bashed" him myself. I DO think he's a giant $@!, and he is. Very arrogant now for many reasons and that's been proven in interviews and videos. Regardless, he's one of my favorites, an amazingly innovative guitar player (well. was), changed the sound and style of rock guitar and is still one a great inspiration of mine. He got tones from that beater guitar and a variac that are still incredible to this day.

So although EV, Don Henley, Yngwie are huge pricks, they have the talent to back it up and will be legends.

People like Axel Rose and Ringo Starr are just as, if not more, arrogant and are worthless throw-away turds. Those $@! bags have no reason to have the attitudes they have.

Just my opinion.


I thought mccartney was more involved with himself than ringo, I always thought ringo was humble

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True Tommy but Paul is probably a better drummer than Ringo and I am serious.


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I thought mccartney was more involved with himself than ringo, I always thought ringo was humble



Might very well be, but never from what I've seen. If he were, at least he has mega talent. Every time I've seen Ringo, he's just the cockiest guy ever. And he's a crappy drummer. What mediocre, even garage band drummer couldn't play Beatles stuff? The other three were amazing, Ringo could have been replaced by any drummer in any gigging band and nobody would have noticed.

That's Ringo Starr, not to be confused with someone else I liked - Johnny Ringo from Tombstone...

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The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

So goes the old saw about public relations. If someone is a giant, a game-changer, a mind-blower, they receive tons of fast and easy praise. But let 'em slip a step or two, and everybody wants the first kick.

CLapton was God... now look how much crap he takes from people who can't even copy his licks, let alone come up with their own. Eddie The V, same thing. Good lord a'mighty, just imagine how much trash they'd be talking about Hendrix if he'd lived!

I always notice when people say that technically proficient players have no "soul." What's "soul?" Music you think you can play? Man, if you can't hear the passion and fire and the pure funhouse joy n Van Halen's playing, you're deaf or maybe feeling a littel threatened. It's loaded with soul... just not the bent-note guitar-face soul one is likely to encounter at Blooze Jam Night down at your local watering hole.

As for being frustrated over the band's demise... what, is a band supposed to last forever? Should you hang together at all costs and become a clown-faced money machine like the Stones? Settle for a lesser version of stardom and go do the State Fair gigs? A band has a life span, and Van Halen had theirs. He doesn't need the money... if I were Eddie, I'd spend the rest of my life kicking back, enjoying my time, and learning to play jazz, which I would never perform in public as long as I lived.



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01GT eibach wrote:
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Man, if you can't hear the passion and fire in Van Halen's playing, you're deaf ... It's loaded with soul...

Exactly.


You're exactly right it's definitely loaded..... I think SRV was a far better player though.


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I think Eddie gets some negative vibe for how he treated Michael Anthony & Sammy (maybe even Dave to a degree). Maybe Eddie's problem there is he doesn't like conflict ... so he waits for the individual to start doing stuff in the off time, then say "oh, so-and-so left Van Halen to do other stuff". Cherone was the only one that seemed to be clearly fired.

But ... as a guitarist ... I think Eddie gets mountains of love. Okay, maybe not all over in this forum, but seemingly everywhere else. Didn't he just win Guitar World's yearly "best guitarist" poll by a landslide?

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To be fair Guitar World is a very bias publication if you look back on the last 10 years they only feature EVH, Zakk Wylde, Kirk Hammett, Jimmy Page and if they feel like slumming it Kurt Cobain on the cover.

One of the 4 living ones has to win it each year even if they havent put out any new material. I blame the music business, it used to be they would really pursue artists who would inspire and had talent.

Now its just who is going to get the quickest return...who can put out the poppiest money making tune?

And if you are fortunate enough to get signed and do put out an album, good luck getting promoted unless you are a flamboyant idol (read between the sensors on that one), or a teenage girl who can barely sing. But at least you get a Disney show out of it.


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More like poopiest money making tune.


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Michael Jackson's "Beat It"...........in 2 takes..............need I say more?


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Michael Jackson's "Beat It"...........in 2 takes..............need I say more?


... and one of the most unique, coolest guitar solos ever. The noises, groans, and tones he gets in that are impossibly cool. Without Eddie, the whole 80's metal guitar scene would have been very different.


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Eddie is not my favorite guitarist,He is in my top 5 but before he came along nobody had an arsenal of chops like that ever. That is why every guitar player in the 80s ripped him off and maybe 10% of them adding something to the mix to make them stand out as an original and alltime great. I think technicaly speaking the 80s probably had the era of guitarist with the best chops but in some of the lamest bands ever.Even the most dreadful bands had guitarist who could play great but it all just started to sound the same and then every group had the power ballad hit and that is what almost everyone of those bands are remembered for there #1 power ballad hit and big hair. I never thought VanHalen would self destruct like they did I like both incarnations of the band the Dave era and the Sammy era they made some great music then spent the last ten years bad mouthing eachother, The same with Guns and Roses who I saw twice and blew me away. They should have a catalog of 10-13 albums by now instead of 3 because Axle had to be a major head case.


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Van Halen is the reason I started playing guitar.

I know there are better guitarists than him, but to me he was the most inspirational.

When I heard the live version of 3:16 (The CD with the statue jesus on the front) I had to have a guitar. A few weeks later I bought my first strat.

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Come on, everybody knows that Van Halen sucks. :shock: :P


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If EV sucks then why is everybody always talking about him. He is very popular for a person that everyone hates. Why are there so many play like EV videos? If he sucks then no one would be emulating him.

VH music was chart topping the 80's.

So like VH/EV or not he made his mark and everyone followed and they became better for that.

EV was an innovator for his time. Although Hendrix was probably the greatest innovator.

For me playing VH music makes me happy. But like most I was not an EV fan in the beginning until I started understanding his technigue. His music still draws me today and makes me want to be a better guitar player just like SRV and Hendrix and Clapton and Yngwie and all the rest.

Instead of ripping these heros apart we should be trying to keep them as long as we can. Cause when they are gone like Hendrix and SRV the whole world is that much less for his loss.


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I have never bashed him, I just don't care for him or his guitar playing. That's just my personal opinion.

I wish him all the best in staying clean.


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