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Post subject: Roland & Fender introduces the 'FRV-1: Fender® Reverb' p
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:14 am
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FRV-1: Fender® Reverb

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A classic reborn — the legendary sound of the1963 Fender® Spring Reverb returns as a modern stompbox. BOSS and Fender® USA have collaborated to create the FRV-1, a stunning recreation of the legendary ’63 Fender® Reverb via COSM technology. The FRV-1 puts that timeless tube-driven reverb sound under your foot in a tough, reliable compact pedal.

A Timeless Classic — the Fender® ReverbThe original '63 Fender® Spring Reverb is the sound that launched thesurf-music phenomenon, and is a staple of rockabilly, country, andblues. Later, it became commonplace in grunge and other modern genres.Now the same legendary sound can be had in an affordable, rugged compact pedal.

•Recreates the legendary sound of the 1963 Fender® Reverb via COSM technology
•Easy operation with three classic controls for Dwell, Tone, and Mix for creating sounds from buttery warmth to sparkling twang
•Cool, retro appearance
•Road-tough BOSS metal construction

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Mmmm... If the reverb is anything like the one on the Deluxe Reverb pedal, it won't be too stellar of an effect. I watched the video demo on the Boss website. Not impressive at all.


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I've got a Boss FDR-1, linked below, and like Rick says, hopefully there'll be a big improvement.

I've got great reverb in my DRRI and pretty decent verb in my Bj NOS. Bought a Pro Jr. just to drag with me to work, (no reverb) and bought this for it. The reverb sounds as if it's playing across a cymbal or something. Not happy with it at all.

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I think it could do better without the stupid amp modelling. At that price for a reverb it needs to be good and not boss's usual generic effects sound.

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:45 am
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It would do fine if you really need a cheap reverb to go with a travel or practice setup but i would never gig or rehearse with that thing

It's about 20$ more over here but I'd check this out instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK-iEjavq5w


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nikininja wrote:
I think it could do better without the stupid amp modelling. At that price for a reverb it needs to be good and not boss's usual generic effects sound.


Boss sells the most pedal around, they must not sound that generic.

I have a BOSS ME-20 http://tinyurl.com/nk7wk4, that I use with my '63 Vibroverb RI , I will put my tone against anyone here :wink:.

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thouston wrote:
nikininja wrote:
I think it could do better without the stupid amp modelling. At that price for a reverb it needs to be good and not boss's usual generic effects sound.


Boss sells the most pedal around, they must not sound that generic.

I have a BOSS ME-20 http://tinyurl.com/nk7wk4, that I use with my '63 Vibroverb RI , I will put my tone against anyone here :wink:.


I am a BIG Boss fan myself, but not impressed with their Fender amp modeling pedals. Now that DD7 Digital Delay is impressive.

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I thought the FDR-1: Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb Pedal http://tinyurl.com/l4j2ko was a great ideal, if you had a amp that didn't have reverb or Vibrato.

I demo'd one with a Marshall 1974X http://tinyurl.com/l5p5oa, which doesn't have reverb and a Master volume, I thought it worked well with the 1974X, and the group of people thought so too :) .

But for me it's the FBM-1: Fender '59 Bassman Pedal http://tinyurl.com/lhxgt7 is the most versatile pedal of two, due to it's Presence, Treble, Mid, and Bass EQ controls.

I almost brought one to use with '63 Vibroverb RI, the Vibroverb has reverb and tremelo but doesn't have a master volume. I was able to add a little more bottom and add grit at a lower volume http://tinyurl.com/mhv8qz.

Guitarist Phil Gates http://tinyurl.com/laj3ar has a FBM-1 in his setup.

But when BOSS came out with the ME-20, I got one mainly for the rotary effect, and the various OD.

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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:17 pm
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I have to agree with THouston - We have both the FDR-1 and FBM-1 pedals and they work nicely for us. My son has them on his pedal board plugged into a Vox Valvetronix set on Boutique Clean. They both sound great.... better than the Fender pre-sets the amp itself has.

I am looking to set something in front of my blackface Champ to give it some room and head..... the 65 Reverb pedal might be it. Sam Ash is listing it at $129 which seems to be reasonable. Right now I have a Boss DD6 in front of the Champ.... it works okay, but I would like to test a 65 Reverb pedal.


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I've played through a Boss FDR-1, and I was very underwhelmed. It sounded tinny through the three or four amps I used (tube, solid-state, everything...).

On the other hand, I am a big fan of most Boss pedals, especially the SD-1. I think the lack of soul in these new ones is a direct result of the digital COSM-modeling. To me, most pieces of gear that use this technology sound lifeless. On the other hand, I bet the new Fender Reverb pedal is a pretty decent alternative to the baseline reverb pedals...


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Has anyone played through one yet?

This morning I was at Hauer Music here in Dayton. They had one and it flew out the door. The sales guy, an older fellow, said he played through it . He was impressed and said it sounded like his real Fender reverb tank.

None of the other stores seem to even know what I am talking about when I call them - even the local GC. :roll:


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This morning I was at Hauer Music here in Dayton


I'm a Dayton native, and brought my '88 Strat, and a couple of amps from Hauer over the years. Jim Hauer is a good friend of mine. They did have my picture on the wall behind the counter.

I played a FRV-1 at Sam Ash thru a Deluxe Reverb RI, I wanted to hear the DRRI's reverb compared to the FRV-1. First I played with just the DRRI's reverb, and than adjust the settings on the FRV-1 to 'match' what I heard with the DRRI's reverb.

I liked the FRV-1, it doesn't quite have the warmth of a tube reverb, but if I had a Bassman or any amp that didn't reverb, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.

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I liked the FRV-1, it doesn't quite have the warmth of a tube reverb, but if I had a Bassman or any amp that didn't reverb, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.


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Thanks for the update and review comments. I am thinking of buying it to put in front of my vintage Champ. I have to be in Springfield today - I might try Kincaids.

I think anyone who thinks these Boss/Fender pedals are going to emulate a vintage tube is fooling themselves. I never expected them to fully emulate the original. But I look at it as a way to get close for a lot less money. :oops: My son won't give them back to me. :lol:

BTW - I think Jim was outside pulling shrubs and weeds yesterday when I stopped by. :lol: You have to love the locally owned shops.


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I think anyone who thinks these Boss/Fender pedals are going to emulate a vintage tube is fooling themselves.


You know, they weren't designed to emulate a vintage amp, but to add that 'feel' of the Fender amps. If you look at the Roland/BOSS site, they both the FDR-1 and FBM-1 listed in the Distortion/Overdrive page http://www.rolandus.com/products/productlist.php?ParentId=90.

As I posted before, when I played FDR-1 thru a Marshall 1974X combo amp, I was able to get a 'Fender' Backface tone, with some drive at a lower volume because the FDR-1 has a gain control and reverb.

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Just received my FBM-1 this morning. My first impression is very good. I don't know if it exactly sounds like a Bassman but it definately improves my tone. It brightens up the tone of my Rolands clean channel and puts some hair on it :wink:

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