All you have to do is want it.

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/ ... en/656281/

Now it's just getting silly...

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If Obama's Grand Mother says she was in the room at the hospital and watch him be born it seems troubling that the Hospital was the Mombasa General Hospital in Kenya? She said that his parents then returned to Hawaii. Is that why there is no hospital records or a birth certificate. I believe they posted a copy of a Certificate of Live Birth which is different then a Birth Certificate. I beleive the first just means that a child was born and regestered by the parents stating they live within the state and that a birth certificate is filed for by the hospital with all the birth information date and where.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

It may have alot to do with Fender not being able to operate under all the new environmental, tax and labor polices being introduced in cal.

You run i'll vote.

Just be ready for everything to go up again unless it comes from oversea's in non regulated countries. It is call CAP AN TRADE and I believe it has done passed one hiouse and been sent to the next. Companies will be given carbon credits on what they can release into the air. Companies that don't want to operate can sell there carbon credits to others if they want. The goverment can also sell additional credits to those who need them. Well where is that money going to come from? You the person who buys the energy or the product produced. Thanks to our present Goverment they don't want to just regulate it they want to make more goverment controled charges to be passed on to the consumer but as they say it ITS FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE!!!! While they are forcing these pollution controls down our throats the busnesses just move to a country that has less on none. We need controls but not ones that form a way for some to make big money selling carbon credits and others have to buy them to operate and then pass that cost on to the consumer YOU!!!!
This is the wrong time for such a thing with the economy as it is. If this was the other administration this would be all over the news but not this one!!!! Socialism run a muck creating more opportunity for the the top tier to make money at the cost of those they say they are going to take care of. And watch out they are talking about way to come up with the money for the Health Care stuff and one thing talked about is a VAT (value added tax) our friends on the other side of the pond no about that!!!! Heres the definitionfor those who don't know what it is.
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Value added tax (VAT), or goods and services tax (GST) is a consumption tax levied on value added. In contrast to sales tax, VAT is neutral with respect to the number of passages that there are between the producer and the final consumer; where sales tax is levied on total value at each stage, the result is a cascade (downstream taxes levied on upstream taxes). A VAT is an indirect tax, in that the tax is collected from someone who does not bear the entire cost of the tax.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

don't blame Obama for not scratching your back and pleasing you all fast enough. your best republican George W left a BIG mess behind for us to clean up. Obama is stuck in a pile of crap and is doing what he can. maybe you should blame George for your problems instead of the hand trying to feed you

...sigh...yeah, yeah bad W. Can't wait till 2012 so I can blame some stuff on Obama.

You may actually learn something on Fox! It's not an Obama love fest!

Socialist speak, the last thing I want is Obama to feed me. Thats what they do in Socialist goverments take care of the peolple as they see fit. I want the opportunity to feed myself with out big brother putting his hands in my pocket. Heck you have Biden running around today yacking about that the U.S Hospitals are willing to for go 155 billion in Medicaid/ Medicare charges to help pay for the Obama health care plan. Are we supposed to be so stupid to beleave this crap, sure they are willing to for go these charges to help create another program that they can charge. It is a win win for the hospital system. I follow this stuff every day we are getting pick clean more now then ever before. GW sucked bad enough, Obama is topping him you just got to look past the elequint speak. Currently 16% of our economy is in health care. they are talking about limiting the quanity of treatment and several other options such as a bundling system alowing a charge by the provider on a episode basis thus eliminating repeat hospital admissions. They are looking at overseas countries and saying we in the U.S. get 4 to 5 times as many MRI's and is that nessasary to do so. They are even looking at Massachusetts which is thinking of a salaried physicians model where the Doctor will be paid on a yearly bassis per person or family. This stuff is scary because this ???? thinks he knows best for all. People have to start looking into these Bills and not just catching the two minute blurb that they give on the news. You will never hear anything bad about Obama there

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

One can't say anything bed about Obama, for fear of offending someone, he'll be seen as a great Pres. and will have never made a tough decision in his political life. Plus the media in this country looks for a reason to kiss his A##. Maybe they think they'll be the favored class when we go completely socialist.

The poor aren't litteraly dying in the streets over here..
You guys should check out Jacob Holdts 'American Pictures', that scares the $@!& out of me

While reading this thread several times I haven't read an argument for the good points of a capitalistic health system...? Doesn't it freak you out that the doctor who's there to stitch you up really cares more about a big fat paycheck than your well being (alternatively, care for your well being because of the paycheck)? Your psysical well being should not be a trade object, I want my doctors to do their job 'cause they want to help others and of interest!

Kind of like how I prefer Duane Allman over The Pussycat Dolls

I dont know if I was in the hospital I might find a use for the pussycat dolls.
Sponge bath anyone

Well I have had 3 MRI's and 2 CT scans in the last 10 years because it was available to me and the Doctors felt it nessasary, the Govermant had no say in the matter!!!! Take away the incentive to make good money how many are going to go through the years and years it takes to become a Doctor and whos going to pay for the cost of all those years. They want to help fight health care cost do something about all the lawsuits that people file agaist providers, sure some have merrit but many do not. A Doctors insurance cost is crazy but since most politician's are lawyers that will never happen. It takes years for a drug to get approved for sale by the FDA then ten years latter you hear some people have been harmed because of potential drug side effect and the drug company gets sued by thousands for selling a drug that the Govermant approved to be sold how does a company combat that? Our healthcare problems are very much tied to our legal system. There are states in this country that have shortages of certain Doctors because of the cost to have a practice.
Walk into a hospital in a low income area of a city you are not going to see people being thrown out the door because they don't have money, there will be over 500 shooting victims in Baltimore this year and most will have no insurance of any kind and they will be treated and if needed they will go to ether John Hopkins Hospital or the Maryland Shock Trauma Center two of the best emergency medical centers there are.
The capitalistic system is not perfect but there are other things that can be done other then to make it a socialistic health system, that is not the answer.


Side note.
The large number of shooting victims is because the only people who carry firearms in Maryland are criminals the people who should be allowed to can't. Next to impossible to get a carry permt in Maryland because they don't want guns on the street. At least the criminal don't have to worry about getting shot while committing a crime unless he does it against another criminal.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

We hear you CV and most of us agree ,but you will never get your point across to folks who believe that the new administration is the hand that feeds us .
I personally do not understand this belief and really cannot even believe that I read it here.
I wonder if poster that wrote that understands what that means.
Anyway this is the last serious comment I will make on this thread