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WTF does this have to do with Fender guitars?

I don't go to Redstate and Daily Kos to talk about guitars, and I don't want to hear about your politics here...

Take it somewhere else.

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It's called the Fender Lounge. Where you can talk about anything and everything. Or ignore anything and everything if you so chose.


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I see what you're saying, Joe. And believe me, I distrust all politicians. And especially the guys that can speak fairly well, like Regan and George H. did. But, if the government and big business didn't learn anything form the 70's Oil Crisis and Chrysler Bailout #1 when they partnered up with Mitibitshi to build the Horizon they will never learn.

But, I believe in being fair, though. Obama only had the job for a short time, and no one knows how it's gonna roll out in the end until his term is over. Americans have been sold out these past 8 years. Our jobs are in India and our homes are in forclosure. And everyone's being bailed out except the middle class. We're being robbed by the banks and the government is helping them do it. But, I guess all theives have to stick together.


I agree he needs more time. Hopefully he figures it out.


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razorbladeSD wrote:
WTF does this have to do with Fender guitars?

I don't go to Redstate and Daily Kos to talk about guitars, and I don't want to hear about your politics here...

Take it somewhere else.

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Your choice to read. My freedom of expression is uninterupted as is your freedom of viewing.

Seriously.

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razorbladeSD wrote:
WTF does this have to do with Fender guitars?

I don't go to Redstate and Daily Kos to talk about guitars, and I don't want to hear about your politics here...

Take it somewhere else.

Seriously.

It's called the Fender Lounge. Where you can talk about anything and everything. Or ignore anything and everything if you so chose.


Nice. And I thought the "Was Jimi Hendrix Bi" was a stupid thread.

Have fun. If I want this much stupid, I'll turn on Fox News.

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Without a doubt W was a failure economically and internationally. But O has no clue how the world really looks at America. He really believes that a few good words and a positive attitude will bring everyone around. Well I have news for him, the Middle East has never cared for the west and it doesn't look like the will anytime soon either.

Wake up call. They don't want anything to do with the U.S. or it's policies. Until our leadership realises that and truly changes our approach and does something to reduce our dependence on their oil nothing will change.


I see what you're saying, Joe. And believe me, I distrust all politicians. And especially the guys that can speak fairly well, like Regan and George H. did. But, if the government and big business didn't learn anything form the 70's Oil Crisis and Chrysler Bailout #1 when they partnered up with Mitibitshi to build the Horizon they will never learn.

But, I believe in being fair, though. Obama only had the job for a short time, and no one knows how it's gonna roll out in the end until his term is over. Americans have been sold out these past 8 years. Our jobs are in India and our homes are in forclosure. And everyone's being bailed out except the middle class. We're being robbed by the banks and the government is helping them do it. But, I guess all theives have to stick together.

I did not like W myself but you want to no how the mess we are in come about you have to look before him. And many knew this was going to happen but wanted to make the money then bail out. The deregulation of banks did this and the requirment of community renivestment making banks loan money to anyone in order to due business. Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 is the biggest reason we have todays problems and most people don't even no about this change that effected every thing financial in everyones daily lives in the U.S. which in turn effected the World. This change effected everything in the financial industry and was passed on November 4, 1999. Read the Bill you will understand.

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An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system. .

The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.

Community Reinvestment Act

Requires that Federal bank regulators prohibit banks from participating in the new financial affiliations if, at the time of certification, any bank affiliate had received a less than "satisfactory" Community Reinvestment Act rating.

Requires parties to a CRA protest agreement to fully disclose the terms of the agreement and make them available to the public; each participant in a CRA agreement must file an annual report disclosing the use of resources provided in the agreement.

Financial Affiliations

Eliminates many Federal and State legal barriers to affiliations among banks and securities firms, insurance companies, and other financial service providers, including provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 and Section 20 of the Banking Act of 1933 (commonly referred to as the "Glass-Steagall Act"). Full affiliation can now occur between the entities.

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razorbladeSD wrote:

. If I want this much stupid, I'll turn on Fox News.


Or try and control whats written on a internet forum.

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nikininja wrote:
razorbladeSD wrote:

. If I want this much stupid, I'll turn on Fox News.


Or try and control whats written on a internet forum.

Your right there my Friend Nik.

The funny thing is in post like this people blame what ever politician they don't like but yet they don't have a clue as to what the ones they do like have done. I tell people if they only read some of these Bills and not just hear whats being told they would be shocked. Some times we get into these talks on the Mensa Forum about how the cattlle follow the bull and don't care were he leads them because he can't be going the wrong way.

Thats kind of a blunt way of saying it I don't mean anything bad about but people should just educate themselfs not just decide things off sound bites.

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Its been my longtime belief that what we call democracy is no more than a 'pick your dictator for the next four years' scheme.
How much say do the public actually have in our wonderfull goverments.
Dunno about the USA but the UK goverment seems quite good at shifting attention from any protest that they dont like. Or in the case of Tony Blair with the fuel protests just threatens the public with arrest and getting the military involved (sounds like someone from iraq :cry:).

I really believe we should have a skeleton goverment that just carry out our wishes. Hold a referendum on all major decisions so what the public want gets done. With the advancements in communication these last 20 years it would be easy. They even let people vote by text message in swindon 8 or 9 years ago because of low turnout.

Things would be incredibly hard for a good 20 or 30 years. People would be forced to be attentive and decisive. We'd end up with a far more democratic country though. And there'd be less room for lazy idiots in the world. Something my country is plagued with.

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Hold a referendum on all major decisions so what the public want gets done.


They do that in California... that's why they're broke.

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I'll keep my freedom, my money and my guns.
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Hold a referendum on all major decisions so what the public want gets done.


They do that in California... that's why they're broke.


It needs to be nationwide so theres no one to fall back on. My nation needs sink or swim politics. What happend in california is nowhere near what i propose to be the only true form of democracy. For one thing when they decided to put every decision to the public did they axe a load of politicians that simply weren't needed (roughly 80%)? Was california removed from national laws in the USA. Particularly those regarding education, healthcare and taxation?

What i propose is a complete end to our style of democracy. Let the public govern and make their own decisions. It would stop the exploitation by business and politicians. It would take about 30-40 years to get the thicko members of the public to realize that their decisions have consequences and that they need to be productive in their lives rather than just doss around on the dole living off taxpayers and smoking weed all day.

I cant see that sending England bust. Anything that will kill off the politicians leeching off society here is a good thing.

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I'll keep my freedom, my money and my guns.
You can keep the "change".

You better stock up on them. I don't no how it is where you live but buying handgun ammo is getting tuff seems everybody running out. And you can't get many semi auto rifles because there out of stock because sales have gone thru the roof since the new administration took office. The Second Ammendment is in deep trouble with this administration. What they can't legislative in Congress they are going to do from the Bench and side step Voters so Congress won't have to answer for it.

Thats why firearms sales have had there biggest six months of sales they seen in a long time.

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LOL, I forgot about that one. Nice!


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Image I Got Mine !

Now that is My kind of Vice President, A person for the People.

Oh!!!! My God!!!! Wheres Bill????
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