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Post subject: Re: Dumb question but never answered....
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:45 pm
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As we know, Holy Bible said that God created this world, start from the sky, until Adam....

my question is (actually this is kinda dumb question, but I never get the answer):
IF human, animals, and every creatures on earth (and on other planets?) made by GOD, where the hell the fossil came from? Where the hell the evolution theory came from?
Have you ever think about that? :roll: :?: :?:


You kinda answered your own question in your question. Fossils came from God as well. Those were earlier creations that for one reason or another he or she decided they did not like any more.

Here is another thought...maybe God creates through evolution. We just had it wrong all this time. Maybe Genosis was not translated correctly or man made a mistake when writing down the story over many many generations. Maybe the story was just too long for us to write down in just one small book or God just made it easy for us and gave us a condensed version. After all we are only human. We will all find out when the time is right.

Sometimes it just all comes back to just having plain old Faith.

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I've been a university biology student for four years now. I've heard such perfect scientific explanations as to how everything came to be from well educated professors that there really is no arguing on the matter.

The earth, etc developped perfectly naturally. Now, I'm not going to go ahead and say that there isn't a God - I think it's up to the individual to decide whether a God "planned" any of this to happen.


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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:13 pm
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Fossils came from animals & people who died and were buried quickly so the bones (and sometimes more) solidified before they underwent decay.

Pretty simple--it doesn't exclude God creating.

How would fossils deny creation?

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It is amusing we spend so much time and effort electron-microscope-level pondering about this world...

...which is but one insignificant speck orbiting a minor star among hundreds of millions of stars in this galaxy, in an outer arm of a galactic spiral of one of hundreds of billions of galaxies.

Which began with the Big Bang of about 15 billion years ago.

But 'still wondering, what was going on a Trillion years ago?

You know, more than 600 times the amount of years before the Big Bang.

Personal thought, let The Almighty be unfathomable-big and just dig being a part of it all.


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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:19 pm
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about Big Bang, will Brian May's book "Big Bang" answer all of this?


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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:37 pm
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Fosils come from animals that have died, Over time you get Fosils. As for your other qustion that thery states that Man came from apes. Why than are there still apes?


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wilburcook wrote:
Fosils come from animals that have died, Over time you get Fosils. As for your other qustion that thery states that Man came from apes. Why than are there still apes?

No, that theory states that man and apes share a common ancestor.

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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:14 pm
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Fosils come from animals that have died, Over time you get Fosils. As for your other qustion that thery states that Man came from apes. Why than are there still apes?

No, that theory states that man and apes share a common ancestor.

Mutations from the common ancester just as 12B states. Modern DNA testing can show how simular by DNA sequencing. Man may not have come from apes but all may have come from the same ancestor and mutated to the species of today.

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Post subject: Re: dumb gustion
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:41 pm
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cvilleira wrote:
Twelvebar wrote:
wilburcook wrote:
Fosils come from animals that have died, Over time you get Fosils. As for your other qustion that thery states that Man came from apes. Why than are there still apes?

No, that theory states that man and apes share a common ancestor.

Mutations from the common ancester just as 12B states. Modern DNA testing can show how simular by DNA sequencing. Man may not have come from apes but all may have come from the same ancestor and mutated to the species of today.
Yes GOD created the Earth, Man and all living things upon it. That being said I guess that ancestor would be GOD.


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If string theory, ( physics ) is valid, it makes a case for multiple dimensions; physical, spiritual and at least 11 others. But then there is the good ol' 6 string theory, or 5 like Keith......


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OK If you get a speeding ticket in the mail from a carmera its a civil penalty but if a Policeman gives you a ticket you broke the law. One is considered criminal act and the other a civil penalty. How can it be both?

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Couple thoughts:

Re the speeding ticket, the ancient Chinese curse fits. "May you live in interesting times."

Re String Theory: Yup. The universe can get as big as each of us allows our mind to take in the possibiliites. It'd probably be a darned good thing if many, many earthlings stopped thinking like the uneducated mope on the tiny Pacific island.

Just because you have not been there or seen it or learned in depth about it...

...does not mean it does not exist.


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schnepf13 wrote:
I don't know if this is really the place for a creationism vs. evolution debate, but as a graduate of a Catholic grade school and high school, I'll put my 2 cents in....

The modern, post Vatican II Catholic church views the creation story in Genesis as a metaphor for God's creation of the universe and of man -- and of man's imperfections and sins ultimately causing a seperation between man and God. This rift can only be bridged through rejection of sin, leading a good life and following the laws of God.

The Bible's creation story is NOT meant to be taken as literal truth (though Fundamentalists will argue with you here).

Religion and science can co-exist, as far as I'm concerned. Science strives to explain the mechanics of the universe, the rules under which God operates, so to speak. But science can never explain the "whys" of our existance: why we are here, what we are supposed to do with our lives, why bad things happen to good people, etc. That is the realm of philosophy and religion.

Anyway, that's my opinion -- I'll now shut up on the matter.


Exactly what i was thinking


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ok, a question: if i put also my strat into my grave...will her soul also rise to the heaven? :wink:

happy thougths...

cheers :D


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ok, a question: if i put also my strat into my grave...will her soul also rise to the heaven? :wink:

happy thougths...

cheers :D


Ask somebody to dig your grave 10 years after you've been buried to take your strat.....if she still sounds good, so her soul still there..... :D


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