is it me or does modern music fell a little "cookie cutter-ish". good music is full of emotion. modern music seems to be lacking...

also, whats up with the stupid lyrics,"nobody wins when everybody loses"
or how about "when its good its so good till it goes bad"

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In every era, there has been impassioned, intelligent music, and there has been dumb, lifeless music.

As Kay Kyser might say, "Mairzy doats and dozey doats and liddle lamsy divey."

Put on some Ben Folds. That'll cheer you up.

Personally I think you'll find some of the stupidest lyrics in the golden age of rock. How is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" remotely intelligent? But hey, it's still a good song despite that.

But yeah, since I've discovered all this old music (rock and blues mostly) I'm left feeling like everything I listened to before was stale and over produced. I don't know why, but good modern music is hard to come by.

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Give me a screaming Guitar and a Power Rythem Section and im a happy Camper.

TEXAS,There is a famous story about that song.The orinal lyrics were IN THE GAREDEN OF EDEN and the singer was to waisted or something similar to pronoune it right so they just left it.Another famous one is the stutering in YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET by BTO.They were making fun of Randy Bachmans brother who had a stuttering problem and recorded that version as a joke,but the record company loved it and would not let them change it.Just a few great rock srories

Hahaha.. That's messed up.

There is still some good "new" stuff out there, it's just not necessarily mainstream.

Lots of bands now seem to listen to what is "hot" and try to duplicate that sound instead of creating something that is unique.

I place some of the blame on the proliferation of "Artist Model" instruments and effects pedals, and on "modelling amps" that have band sounds preprogrammed. All of this stuff seems designed to encourage musicians to sound like each other instead of developing their own unique style and sound.

Don't even get me started on the disgusting trend in metal where it seems that all you have do is detune lower and bang on your lowest string and you're a guitar hero.

It's exploring the boundaries that keeps music growing.

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I heard a rumor years ago that that was supposed to translate into "In The Garden Of Eden". Probably just nonsense.

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"good" is subjective term, so i'll try to avoid it. the only modern music worth listening to today lies with the jam bands. its full of soul and passion, sweet grooves, intelligent lyrics and clever progressions, and its very diverse and eclectic. always refreshing to hear the stuff these bands offer.

i.e. Tea Leaf Green, Assembly of Dust, Dispatch/State Radio, Phish, Santana, Widespread Panic, Gov't Mule, Moe., Umphree's Mcgee, Radiators, etc. etc. i know im probably missing some other noteworthy ones, but you get the point.

music would be extremely stale today if not for bands like these to deliver a fresh wind of hope and life. if only they could break out into mainstream, next to several rare successes

i often generalize and say that all modern music sucks, but then i have to correct myself when i recall the jam bands of today

But they can't. Because music IS a subjective term, and so many people - really intelligent, well-educated people with fine taste in movies, music and books - would rather have a liver biopsy than listen to 10 minutes of Phish.

See, here's the path to enlightenment... what you like isn't the good stuff, and what you don't like isn't the bad stuff. It's all just stuff, and people like it because it either makes them feel energized and good, or bored and sluggish. This is a function of individual brain chemistry. It's not a moral choice, not a matter of who has "better" ears or "more refined" taste, or who is a more rarified listener.

To quote one of my fave movies: "There aren't evil guys and innocent guys. It's just... It's just... It's just a bunch of guys." - Steve Arlo in The Zero Effect

'Have a few friends who are pretty much classical music only listeners and / or players. One is so progressive as to accept 20th century composers of orchestral pieces.

'Kinda there, personally, except music liked and performed tends to end in the early 80s and encompasses a wide variety of genres. Rock, pop, blues, world, folk, religious, folk rock, show tunes, classical, romantic....

'Am pretty much the opposite from the purporter of, "Screaming guitar and power rhythm section."

Personal preference is FOR articulation, clarity, artistry, musicality.

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"Freedom from" eardrum damage, effects boards, hyper-over-mixing and production and infantile silliness, e.g. the "Metal" and rap toddler-mentality of need for dress up and dark "attitude."

Yeah, I've heard that. But it's still stupid.

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I remember a TV clip from the mid-50s when a section of humanity was desperately hoping this frightening new rock and roll thing was going to disappear quickly. A TV presenter held up a 45 with a kinda disgusted air like it might bite him and read out the lyrics off a sheet of paper in an extremely square Ivy League voice:

"Bebopalula. She's my baby.
Bebopalula. And I don't mean maybe."

I guess a large section of the viewership was gasping in horror at the dreadfulness of it all...

...And on present day lyrics: comedian Bill Bailey does a nice routine on the Killers lyric; "I've got soul but I'm not a soldier".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSLfoZLg ... re=related

I saw him a few days after that video came out and he said people had been sending him more alternatives. "I've got a dog but I'm not a dogger." "I've got a badge, but I'm not a badger." And ultimately; "I've got mange - but I'm not a manger..."

I can see both sides of that one...

- C

Amen to that.

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well, i'll willingly admit that i sometimes lose my attention span with Phish's extremely long tangent jams, so that can be considered a bad example. yet, their actual songs are very chill to listen to when you take the jams away. a lot of pop worthy material, and they aren't just powerchord anthems!...with due respect, you failed to refute the other bands listed. had i not mentioned Phish, you probably wouldn't have even said anything regarding that topic.

my proposed solution is that radio and mtv/vh1 should just give in and be more open-minded to the collective tastes of the public. obviously, a significant portion of americans dont care for a lot of the music being shoved at us today in mass media. i don't see why they can't budge a little and give SOME kind of an effort to cut us a break once in a while and play something that doesn't involve Chad Kroeger or The Killers.

honestly, i bet more people would listen to the radio or watch mtv/vh1 if the collective canon of music was more diverse and broad, because EVERYONE would have a piece of the pie, and the airwaves wouldnt only be exclusive to the teeny-boppers and simple-minded cliche morons.

true, marketing logic says to focus on the young people, and that's fine from a business perspective, however the powers that be seem slightly misled and fail to see that there are still many who are not digging what's going on right now. a good compromise is to have different programs throughout the day, in which different types of music are played. some radio stations do this, and its a good idea, everyone is happy. so fine, play the mainstream popular stuff during peak hours, whatever, but at least other genre's can still be heard.