Once again the most intellegent answer, that answers nothing at all except the posters own over inflated opinion.

Tiresome.

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say what you want pal.
dont realy care i like this site
so i'm not going to get caught up
in your nonsence. i said what i said
and most agree with me. your post
and a few others here are based 99%
self opinion no facts just opinion well
my friend the majority of people like
and want facts not some empty opinions.
theres 6 on this site that are personal friends of mine
and have been posting here a long time. when it comes
to you and CV and fhrokins and 2 0r three others here
you are takin very lightly or just plain ignored.

if you or anyone else want to reply back
feel free to do so. you will not get anymore
responses from me. i like this site and i plan
to be here a long time and if not then so be it.

have a nice day!

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sombody get me a doctor!

will such people please come forward?

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Jim Morrison was a great singer! Are you kidding his voice was amazing

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I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk...

This has to be the most rediculas tangent of a post I have seen here. Now the Europeans are attacking the Americans and vise versa.

Didn't the Allied Powers win WWII? Didn't that include America, France, Russia and England? Did we not win win it together? Wasn't this before 99% of us were even born?

Like them or not, The Doors were a great band. Jim Morrison was one of the most charismatic front men in history. The only frontman that came close to him, and maybe surpassed him, are David Lee Roth and Elvis Presley. A good front man can carry an average band to heights. With that, the doors were competent musicians, and Robbie Krieger was a good guitarist, and was using exotic scales, while most guitarists were playing loud distorted blues scales. He is underrated, because he did not turn up crazy loud, burn and smash his guitars to get attention. If you have a brain and listen, you will find that he was a good player. Jimmy Page was sloppy as they get, Robbie never played that sloppy, but somehow Jimmy was better??? Now, I love Jimmy Page, very innovative, and my Favorite band is Zeppelin...but I am trying to make a point.

My opinion, is during this Brittish invasion era, there were some American bands that simply trumped the British bands, which were more of a craze than substance. The Doors, Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac, Metallica, and several others showed the world that the undisputed best music in the world comes from America, while the British invasion bands that were inspired by American blues and made a name for themselves, but mostly were imposters and posers...just kidding I love the British stuff too, and am proud to be an ally with them...I never realized why so much hate is still harbored by past events. And some of you guys across the pond should let go of the hate. I have a Scottish friend here in America, that cannot stand to even hear a Englishman talk...its silly. If he hates his neighbor so bad, I can only imagine what he thought about us in America. Funny though, after living here for a few years, he did all he could to stay and never go back to Scottland, despite his families attempt to convince him he belonged in Scottland. His mother made a point at my dinner table to ask me and my wife about our past, and living close to our families ect. and told her son, you should be more like firstrat. Funny because he was enjoying a great level of success and found his wife here in America. You would think she would be happy for him, he did not have the opportunity in Scottland to do what he did here.

It's like me hating everyone from Illinois. I know there is some deep past, but the past is the past

Are you Brits really mad about movies made in America that glorify Americans role in WWII? Please, its a movie, what do you expect? Can we be friends instead? I like the British, I don't want that to change because of comments made here.

Remember, one of the reasons America exists in its current form, is because of some british desires to move away from the oppression of the Kingdom...we are the british common mans dream...The American Revolution, is actually a age old british desire to be free of the oppression and unjust rule of the monarch. We cannot help that those british desires and ideals built the greatest nation in the world. We cannot control the jealousy the rest of the world has for us, it makes them hate us, because we are what the rest of the world wants to be. Perfect we are not....but still the greatest

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2. ESP KH2 Neck Thru
3. 2008 Am Std Strat in 3 tone sunburst

I like cats and think they are not over-rated!

However, I know there are people that dislike cats for various reasons. Some of them legitimate.

Same thing with music or bands in particular. It is a subjective thing. Usually we don't think of bands we like as over-rated and tend to view bands we don't like as over-rated.

There are exceptions:

I can't stand Led Zepplin, but I don't think they're over-rated. They are an icon and an infulencial band.

I really like Nirvana. They were fresh and brought about a fresh perspective. However, I tend to think at times they get overblown a bit.

It's nothing more then a subjective opinion. No need for anyone to get bent about it.

I don't plan to stop listening to the Doors anytime soon and wouldn't expect to convience someone to stop listening to Led Zepplin.

However, I would like to change the world's opinion on cats!!!!

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Firstrat Ive certainly attacked no one over nationality here. I simply pointed out to the much esteemed Alwaysstrat that his notion of 'were the first people you come running to' had nothing to do with the ALLIES winning WWII.

BTW fleetwood mac and the JHE were british bands.

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Mr Jinx though im at heart a dog devotee my cat has a special place in my heart. He (winston) has certainly won me round lately. Infact i think he's better than the daws, clapton, hendrix and the beatles all rolled into one. Lastnight i watched him silently stalk and kill a rat. What a machine. It was beauty in motion.

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Hendrix was American, but he made it in England first...I am pretty sure

Fleetwood Mac were an English band, but their major success happened when the americans Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined.

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1. mid 70's Ventura MIJ Gibson l6-s clone (Pre-lawsuit) in Black with Rosewood FB and EMG 81 BR/ 85 Neck
2. ESP KH2 Neck Thru
3. 2008 Am Std Strat in 3 tone sunburst

Nah hendrix failed to strike it big in america and was living destitute in newyork when chas chandler found him bought him back to england and set him straight. I doubt if that hadnt happend given the political climate in america at the time he wouldnt of gotten anywhere cept hooked on smack with devon (it was at this point he first met her). He had already met dylan and mcartney who (i think) put chas onto him. Maybe he knew america was wrong for him at that time.

Fleetwood mac's greatest sales were from 68-71 where they outsold the stones and the beatles put together. If you look for man of the world video on youtube mike vernon confirms it somewhere between sections 6-9. Its good viewing and worth watching all of when you have a hour.

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firstrat when you say Great frontman how could you not include Freddie Mercury as one of the best. If there was ever anyone who took control of a stage and the crowd it was Him. The doors made some great music but on stage Morrison was often incoherent. There were shows where Morrison did not even stand for most of the show. He could not handle celebrity and often demonstrated it with the I don't care attitude.

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Thomas Jefferson

nikininja,

Regardless of all that, Hendrix was still an American singer and songwriter. Born and raised here, and for a short time was also an American soldier...it just does not get more american than that

cvilleira

Freddie Mercury was one of the greatest, I can't believe I missed him. There are several others. While Morrison did the things you mention, it was not the majority of the time as folklore would have it. That was a rep he gained through a few isolated instances, but it added to his mistique. He made it through way more shows coherently than not. He captivated audiences like no other and was quite the showman

Lets face it fellow guitarist and musicians, we could all be great with the right frontman, regardless of our own skills. Many great musicians will never be well known, because they never had the frontman to attract the masses. The person front and center stage makes and breaks bands. Take Van Halen as an example. They were great with DLR, and SH, who are both great frontman. Then they put an older Gary Schrone in there and sucked. You cannot just plug anyone front and center. But a great frontman can plug in musicians and substitute and still keep thing rolling. Fair-no fact-yes

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2. ESP KH2 Neck Thru
3. 2008 Am Std Strat in 3 tone sunburst

Firstrat my point is america's talent scouts overlooked him while british ones found him and caused his rise to prominence. Without british input he would very likely have dwindled to obscurity. Therefore as a artist he owed it all to british citizens.

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I still don't see how you would consider HIM British. He was still an American. I understand what you are saying, just not that that makes him a Brit. They noticed him, but what they noticed was the great talent this American was. He was still Jimi Hendrix the American singer and songwriter. Many American bands develop followings in other countries before success in America.. Our standards are very high

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Guitars:
1. mid 70's Ventura MIJ Gibson l6-s clone (Pre-lawsuit) in Black with Rosewood FB and EMG 81 BR/ 85 Neck
2. ESP KH2 Neck Thru
3. 2008 Am Std Strat in 3 tone sunburst

I love cats - I just can't eat a whole one by myself.

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