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well when i opened internet explorer it went sraight to my home page, MSN. in big bold letters it read:Could Pot Cure The Economy? just wondering what everyones thoughts were about that.

i feel a little uneasy posting this because the fourms clearly state no posting about illeagle drugs. im *not*l ooking to get banned from here...

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here the link to the article for those intrested:

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... ?gt1=33002

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I have not smoked pot in 20 years I was more into athletics and taking care of my body.On the other hand I do not look at pot any differant than alchohol.I do not know of anyone that died from smoking it and remember it was fun to smoke and jam.I believe with more and more politicians being younger and of that era that sooner or later it will be legalized.And fall under the same banner as alchohol driving under the influence being 21 to purchase,Lets face it so many people smoke it and there is so much money to be made in selling it and taxing it the goverment will give in sooner or later.I do not agree with countries like England making Heroin legal/face it hard core narcotics like HEROIN-COKE-CRYSTAL METH these drugd destroy lives and have no use in our society,This is my opinion on this subject,


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It will never pass. I'll give an example of why. In Nevada we have legal prostitution in several, but not all, counties. It is a tax free business. Recently a plan to tax the brothels was introduced, and even supported by the brothel owners, that would have added several million dollars to our state budget. It never even made it to a vote in the state legislature. Nobody wants thier name attached to tax money from brothels. The politicians are all afraid of the stigma it comes with and consider it political suicide to have anything to do with it. The same thing will likely happen with marijuana if it even gets that far.


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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:19 pm
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trj 1393 wrote:
well when i opened internet explorer it went sraight to my home page, MSN. in big bold letters it read:Could Pot Cure The Economy? just wondering what everyones thoughts were about that.

i feel a little uneasy posting this because the fourms clearly state no posting about illeagle drugs. im looking to get banned from here...


Every culture has 'owned' intoxicants particular to itself. In present society, distilled spirits and wines have a legitimacy which other substances do not enjoy. One could argue the abuse potential from medical and social perspectives well into the wee hours of the morning. Each has taken its toll. It's just that our tolerance for some is greater than our tolerance for others. Hypocritcal, but true.

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YZF, you ever think them Nevada politicians might be afraid of whos name is in the lil back book


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trj 1393 wrote:
well when i opened internet explorer it went sraight to my home page, MSN. in big bold letters it read:Could Pot Cure The Economy? just wondering what everyones thoughts were about that.

i feel a little uneasy posting this because the fourms clearly state no posting about illeagle drugs. im looking to get banned from here...


Every culture has 'owned' intoxicants particular to itself. In present society, distilled spirits and wines have a legitimacy which other substances do not enjoy. One could argue the abuse potential from medical and social perspectives well into the wee hours of the morning. Each has taken its toll. It's just that our tolerance for some is greater than our tolerance for others. Hypocritcal, but true.

You are so right Doc, If a Crimanal harms someone with a Gun some blame the manufacture of the Gun, if a drunk harms someone because he's drunk its his fault not the manufacture of the drink. The goverment allowed the sale of cigerettes with warnings but then allow the manufacture be sued for the harm they caused to people. Then they allow them to continue to be sold. Why ? Because the Goverment wanted some of the settlement and they want the tax it all about being politcaly correct. How many sides can you stand on and still look like you stand for something.

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:52 pm
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IF THE Goverment Regulated and taxed it like Alcohol, Sold only in liqure stores. Put a age limet per State law. What do you think?


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YZF, you ever think them Nevada politicians might be afraid of whos name is in the lil back book


I'm sure some of them are, but not all of them. Nobody wants anything to do with that money. It's a shame too because the state really needs the money right now.


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IF THE Goverment Regulated and taxed it like Alcohol, Sold only in liqure stores. Put a age limet per State law. What do you think?

The goverment would enjoy the Tax money then latter down the road want there cut of that class action settlement against the grower. Thats even if the grower were to sell as they are told. Political correctness is running rampent you never get a straight answer because it may be held against them. The reason we need more tax money is because congreess can't control there own spending. And the the worst thing ever was passed in 1997 98 and over rode most of this:
The Banking Act of 1933, or the Glass-Steagall Act, was passed by Congress in June of that year in the face of vociferous opposition from the American banking community. More than six decades later, aspects of the act are still unpopular in banking and brokerage circles. Prohibiting commercial banks from using their own assets to invest in securities(such as stocks and bonds) is a principal provision of the Banking Act of 1933. This prohibition was included to abolish flawed investment practices, such as those followed by the largest commercial banks in the 1920s, and discourage uncontrolled speculation such as that contributing to the stock market crash of 1929. Another important provision of the Banking Act of 1933 was the establishment of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). The FDIC insures bank deposits up to a given amount; this not only restored public confidence in the nation's banks, but provided a life-giving flow of capital to the thousands of banks that had failed between 1929 and 1933. Six months after the inauguration of the FDIC in January 1934, the bank failures characteristic of the early years of the Great Depression came to a halt.

Now the presant day.
This was the main cause of our curent downfall this change, and notice the requirments and word reinvestment quotas must be met. CRA meaning giving loans to anyone high rish or not if the bank wants to get there piece of pie. Here it is, read it and weep

Clinton administration likes deal

Advocates from both sides cautioned it was much too early to tell exactly what impact the compromise might have, particularly since few of the deal's details have been released.
Broadly, the agreement ends a nearly two-decade long debate on whether financial institutions should be allowed to join forces by repealing parts of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act and the 1956 Bank Holding Company Act.
The Clinton administration had threatened to veto a Senate proposal repealing the laws unless certain Community Reinvestment Act provisions included in a similar House bill were included as part of a final compromise.
But while administration officials indicated Friday they supported the compromise agreement, community advocates -- who supported CRA provisions in the House bill as a minimum standard -- accused the administration of giving away to much.
"Few Americans are clamoring for legislation that would allow mega-mergers among the nation's largest financial institutions," Taylor said.
Specifically, advocates were upset with language relaxing how often banks' efforts to meet CRA requirements are reviewed and eliminating certain financial penalties for those that fail to meet those requirements.
But administration officials countered that Clinton will not sign any bill he believes allows banks to circumvent CRA principles.
"The president has set a principle: No bank with an unsatisfactory CRA rating could take advantage of any of the powers granted by this deregulation," Lawrence Summers, U.S. Treasury secretary, told CNNfn.
Summers also believes the agreement hammered out Friday will actually reduce costs for consumers and increase competition for their business.
"It means lower costs for consumers because more people can compete to sell them insurance, to sell them mortgages, to sell them other financial products," he said.

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:50 pm
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Over here, the politicians have started talking about opening coffee shops to take business away from gangs
I wouldn't mind that:D

Whether or not a legalization would bring in the hardly sought after tax money, i don't know
But theres no questioning that it's a waste of time and money to keep marijuana illegal

There was an international march for the legalization of cannabis last Saturday


Yesterday, I read an article telling about Hendrix's old stash jar going on sale at an auction, apparently there was still a little in it
Funny thing is, no one is gonna call that a drug trade


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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:01 pm
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And a quick add to what Cvilleira said, some might be interested in this movie
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7695921912
called zeitgeist, it's a well made documentary about the monetary banking system, climate/environment and the fact that a much brighter future is not at all impossible

10 minutes into it, it starts to get clear that theres no way around inflation :wink:

*Has nothing to do with marihuana and does not touch the original topic*


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Over here, the politicians have started talking about opening coffee shops to take business away from gangs
I wouldn't mind that:D

Whether or not a legalization would bring in the hardly sought after tax money, i don't know
But theres no questioning that it's a waste of time and money to keep marijuana illegal

There was an international march for the legalization of cannabis last Saturday


Yesterday, I read an article telling about Hendrix's old stash jar going on sale at an auction, apparently there was still a little in it
Funny thing is, no one is gonna call that a drug trade

Politicians no nothing about businness but how to get there money from them while they can. This subject just gets me rilled I have a hard time saying and many just don't understand it and put the blame in the wrong place because its where they want to believe it to be.

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Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:25 am
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IF THE Goverment Regulated and taxed it like Alcohol, Sold only in liqure stores. Put a age limet per State law. What do you think?

The goverment would enjoy the Tax money then latter down the road want there cut of that class action settlement against the grower. Thats even if the grower were to sell as they are told. Political correctness is running rampent you never get a straight answer because it may be held against them. The reason we need more tax money is because congreess can't control there own spending. And the the worst thing ever was passed in 1997 98 and over rode most of this:
The Banking Act of 1933, or the Glass-Steagall Act, was passed by Congress in June of that year in the face of vociferous opposition from the American banking community. More than six decades later, aspects of the act are still unpopular in banking and brokerage circles. Prohibiting commercial banks from using their own assets to invest in securities(such as stocks and bonds) is a principal provision of the Banking Act of 1933. This prohibition was included to abolish flawed investment practices, such as those followed by the largest commercial banks in the 1920s, and discourage uncontrolled speculation such as that contributing to the stock market crash of 1929. Another important provision of the Banking Act of 1933 was the establishment of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). The FDIC insures bank deposits up to a given amount; this not only restored public confidence in the nation's banks, but provided a life-giving flow of capital to the thousands of banks that had failed between 1929 and 1933. Six months after the inauguration of the FDIC in January 1934, the bank failures characteristic of the early years of the Great Depression came to a halt.

Now the presant day.
This was the main cause of our curent downfall this change, and notice the requirments and word reinvestment quotas must be met. CRA meaning giving loans to anyone high rish or not if the bank wants to get there piece of pie. Here it is, read it and weep

Clinton administration likes deal

Advocates from both sides cautioned it was much too early to tell exactly what impact the compromise might have, particularly since few of the deal's details have been released.
Broadly, the agreement ends a nearly two-decade long debate on whether financial institutions should be allowed to join forces by repealing parts of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act and the 1956 Bank Holding Company Act.
The Clinton administration had threatened to veto a Senate proposal repealing the laws unless certain Community Reinvestment Act provisions included in a similar House bill were included as part of a final compromise.
But while administration officials indicated Friday they supported the compromise agreement, community advocates -- who supported CRA provisions in the House bill as a minimum standard -- accused the administration of giving away to much.
"Few Americans are clamoring for legislation that would allow mega-mergers among the nation's largest financial institutions," Taylor said.
Specifically, advocates were upset with language relaxing how often banks' efforts to meet CRA requirements are reviewed and eliminating certain financial penalties for those that fail to meet those requirements.
But administration officials countered that Clinton will not sign any bill he believes allows banks to circumvent CRA principles.
"The president has set a principle: No bank with an unsatisfactory CRA rating could take advantage of any of the powers granted by this deregulation," Lawrence Summers, U.S. Treasury secretary, told CNNfn.
Summers also believes the agreement hammered out Friday will actually reduce costs for consumers and increase competition for their business.
"It means lower costs for consumers because more people can compete to sell them insurance, to sell them mortgages, to sell them other financial products," he said.
Think of the Farmers the Goverment has forced not to grow anything on there land. This could open a new product for them. Not trying to ruffel anyones feathers just a thought. So kick back fire one up and think about it. :D :D :D


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