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Post subject: Re: What are you doing?
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:43 pm
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That's a shame about the drummer, and issues on the rise. It was sounding pretty solid there too. I guess you never can tell.


Yeah, I thought so, too. It's not looking good, so we'll see.

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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:58 pm
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Checking the new acoustic and how it works with the Mustang IV. I didn't expect much as the amp is not optimized for acoustic. I'm surprised at how good the result is as long as I don't use a preset that is too funky.

Feedback from the Taylor is not out of the question at times depending on the preset, but it is controllable. That's where the noiseless N3s on the Strat shine. :D
Next time I'll try the same with just the SM57 Beta mike, mixer, and the Lexicon. After which I'll put it through a TCH VoicePlay GTX into the mixer. Lastly, I'll check it with the interface and DAW. Phew! It would be nice to just snap fingers or have another capable helper. :lol:
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Does that Mustang amp have some sort of noise gate, which I understood helps control feedback, but I could have been misinformed with that info. My experience with acoustic guitars is pretty limited, even more so to where they are amplified. By the way, how are those Mustang amps? You think they'd be good to gig with, or a pain in the arse to use in that sort of situation. What's the learning curve with the programming? The reason I'm asking is I might need a guitar amp in the future to play shows to where I might have to double on guitar, besides bass (which I'm all good with, gear wise,) and I really would like to avoid gigging my 1982 Fender Super Champ. I've seen those amps go for $1000, and they are in beat up condition, meanwhile mine is in pretty pristine condition. I'd hate to see it get banged up from gigging, although I'm pretty careful with my gear.

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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:05 pm
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Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Checking the new acoustic and how it works with the Mustang IV. I didn't expect much as the amp is not optimized for acoustic. I'm surprised at how good the result is as long as I don't use a preset that is too funky.

Feedback from the Taylor is not out of the question at times depending on the preset, but it is controllable. That's where the noiseless N3s on the Strat shine. :D
Next time I'll try the same with just the SM57 Beta mike, mixer, and the Lexicon. After which I'll put it through a TCH VoicePlay GTX into the mixer. Lastly, I'll check it with the interface and DAW. Phew! It would be nice to just snap fingers or have another capable helper. :lol:
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Does that Mustang amp have some sort of noise gate, which I understood helps control feedback, but I could have been misinformed with that info. My experience with acoustic guitars is pretty limited, even more so to where they are amplified. By the way, how are those Mustang amps? You think they'd be good to gig with, or a pain in the arse to use in that sort of situation. What's the learning curve with the programming? The reason I'm asking is I might need a guitar amp in the future to play shows to where I might have to double on guitar, besides bass (which I'm all good with, gear wise,) and I really would like to avoid gigging my 1982 Fender Super Champ. I've seen those amps go for $1000, and they are in beat up condition, meanwhile mine is in pretty pristine condition. I'd hate to see it get banged up from gigging, although I'm pretty careful with my gear.
Hey, Paul. Thanks, for mentioning the noise gate. Good idea. Yes, it does have a noise gate that is available separately for each preset. I just quickly ran through the 99 presets that I had tweaked earlier. (My tip is to sacrifice preset 00 and turn down and off all the settings as best possible to have silence or the next best thing . . . Version 2 may be different . . . and use that when powering up or muting). YMMV. As far as noise gating, I neglected to look and see what was what and I'll be sure to check for the noise gate on the next time it feeds back. Thanks, for the reminder.

As for gigging with the Mustang that's a toss up. It goes back to one's preference of tubes versus solid state/digital. But, to simplify here's a gigging player and gigging Mustang like mine. I've seen the Mustang III used on stage as well. Mustangs I and II are definitely less likely candidates. Versions 2 may be more suitable should you need more amps, effects, and XLR outputs. It was questionable that Version 1 had a fizz issue, but as you can see from musicmatty's post that isn't always the case or with mine (bought at the end of the run). At any rate, just like guitars there are many amps to choose from and many to like. I really like mine, and my appreciation for Fender (and other) amps goes back to the sixties, and there's a reason Mustang is such a big seller amongst hard core tube owners and others. Value across the board. It may save you some change and present numerous options that will get you what is needed.

You can't have champagne on a beer budget, but a good beer is great when the occasion arises. The Mustang is like a case of those good beers and a sip of champagne. :wink:

Here's one example:

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Is that the version 2?
This amp is that old?

~I did not get the memo, my fault for not picking up the guitar till last year though.

...and absolutely love mine too!


This is the first version and in fact, I was one of the first ones to post a demo on YouTube when the Mustang 4 came out. In the picture below, I'm on the far left with the Sunburst telecaster and my Mustang amp is sitting directly behind the bass player next to drums. I like playing my amps at a distance when playing out live so I can better evaluate the sound and tone in the mix.

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For more on the Mustangs here with the Forum:
viewforum.php?f=27

But. for icing on the cake you might want to check out Fender's Mustang no formal announcement replacement apparently just around the corner (unless you you score a greater deal on a Mustang purchase). This new GT amp series is in my crosshairs and looks to be a killer.

Hope this is of help, Paul.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=106174

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Post subject: Re: What are you doing?
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:37 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
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Checking the new acoustic and how it works with the Mustang IV. I didn't expect much as the amp is not optimized for acoustic. I'm surprised at how good the result is as long as I don't use a preset that is too funky.

Feedback from the Taylor is not out of the question at times depending on the preset, but it is controllable. That's where the noiseless N3s on the Strat shine. :D
Next time I'll try the same with just the SM57 Beta mike, mixer, and the Lexicon. After which I'll put it through a TCH VoicePlay GTX into the mixer. Lastly, I'll check it with the interface and DAW. Phew! It would be nice to just snap fingers or have another capable helper. :lol:
FSB


Does that Mustang amp have some sort of noise gate, which I understood helps control feedback, but I could have been misinformed with that info. My experience with acoustic guitars is pretty limited, even more so to where they are amplified. By the way, how are those Mustang amps? You think they'd be good to gig with, or a pain in the arse to use in that sort of situation. What's the learning curve with the programming? The reason I'm asking is I might need a guitar amp in the future to play shows to where I might have to double on guitar, besides bass (which I'm all good with, gear wise,) and I really would like to avoid gigging my 1982 Fender Super Champ. I've seen those amps go for $1000, and they are in beat up condition, meanwhile mine is in pretty pristine condition. I'd hate to see it get banged up from gigging, although I'm pretty careful with my gear.
Hey, Paul. Thanks, for mentioning the noise gate. Good idea. Yes, it does have a noise gate that is available separately for each preset. I just quickly ran through the 99 presets that I had tweaked earlier. (My tip is to sacrifice preset 00 and turn down and off all the settings as best possible to have silence or the next best thing . . . Version 2 may be different . . . and use that when powering up or muting). YMMV. As far as noise gating, I neglected to look and see what was what and I'll be sure to check for the noise gate on the next time it feeds back. Thanks, for the reminder.

As for gigging with the Mustang that's a toss up. It goes back to one's preference of tubes versus solid state/digital. But, to simplify here's a gigging player and gigging Mustang like mine. I've seen the Mustang III used on stage as well. Mustangs I and II are definitely less likely candidates. Versions 2 may be more suitable should you need more amps, effects, and XLR outputs. It was questionable that Version 1 had a fizz issue, but as you can see from musicmatty's post that isn't always the case or with mine (bought at the end of the run). At any rate, just like guitars there are many amps to choose from and many to like. I really like mine, and my appreciation for Fender (and other) amps goes back to the sixties, and there's a reason Mustang is such a big seller amongst hard core tube owners and others. Value across the board. It may save you some change and present numerous options that will get you what is needed.

You can't have champagne on a beer budget, but a good beer is great when the occasion arises. The Mustang is like a case of those good beers and a sip of champagne. :wink:

Here's one example:

musicmatty wrote:
PentatonicSteel wrote:
Is that the version 2?
This amp is that old?

~I did not get the memo, my fault for not picking up the guitar till last year though.

...and absolutely love mine too!


This is the first version and in fact, I was one of the first ones to post a demo on YouTube when the Mustang 4 came out. In the picture below, I'm on the far left with the Sunburst telecaster and my Mustang amp is sitting directly behind the bass player next to drums. I like playing my amps at a distance when playing out live so I can better evaluate the sound and tone in the mix.

Image


For more on the Mustangs here with the Forum:
viewforum.php?f=27

But. for icing on the cake you might want to check out Fender's Mustang no formal announcement replacement apparently just around the corner (unless you you score a greater deal on a Mustang purchase). This new GT amp series is in my crosshairs and looks to be a killer.

Hope this is of help, Paul.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=106174

FSB


The reason I thought about the noise gate when you mentioned playing acoustic through it was I remember a long time ago a friend of mine occasionally played an acoustic electric through his rig at the time, which was some sort of (I think) Boss multi effects unit that had a preamp, which he ran through a Peavey power amp and 4 x 12" cab. He told me that he used a noise gate, which came with the effects, to control feedback with the acoustic. I remember that it must have worked, because I don't remember him having issues and we did play fairly loud with a drummer.

Thanks for the info on the Mustang. The whole tube versus solid state thing isn't an issue with me, since I'm use to using solid state for bass and guitar isn't my primary instrument. I'll only play it out of necessity for a particular song, not because I want to be like Jimmy Page, or someone like that. I can't do all of that stuff, anyway. I wish I could, but I never put any serious time into the instrument like I did with bass. I just need something relatively hassle free, that I can occasionally play guitar through, and hopefully get through a gig without crapping out on me, and sounding like it's about to take one, either. I do use effects like chorus and distortion, but I have stomp boxes for that. If it's worth the ones built in, then that would be less stuff I have to carry, because I'm also having to deal with bass gear, too.

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I managed to fix the issue I had with my violin bass and now it's not buzzing bad on the first frets! Luckily, I found an Allen wrench that fit and a small enough screw driver to take off the truss rod cover, then just gave it a couple of turns and tuned it up. The buzzing stopped and now I can go back to playing it again. I was a little apprehensive about messing with it, because I never dealt with what was like an acoustic instrument, and was afraid of damaging something, but then I was like to hell with it, and went ahead. I'm also going to leave the truss rod cover off of it for now, in case I have to adjust it again. It has those tiny screws on it that seem to strip real easy, so the less I have to mess with those, the better. It doesn't detract from the overall appearance of the bass, anyway. Well, at least that's one less thing I have to worry about now.

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Feels good to have that buzz gone, huh? Glad it worked out for ya, Paul.

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Thanks. I'm glad I was able to fix that issue. I think because of the flats that I put on there, even though they aren't a heavy gauge, but maybe have more tension to them, that might have caused the neck to shift a bit, plus the weather conditions around here. At least, that's my theory to that.

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Thanks. I'm glad I was able to fix that issue. I think because of the flats that I put on there, even though they aren't a heavy gauge, but maybe have more tension to them, that might have caused the neck to shift a bit, plus the weather conditions around here. At least, that's my theory to that.


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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:01 pm
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Yeah, the wood on the neck shrank from the dry, cold air and I had to file the fret ends down. It wasn't like that when I first got it. I'm glad I got that file, even though it's a huge pain in the arse to deal with, because of having to tape the fretboard up between the frets. You have to do that to prevent file marks and such.

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Last year I noticed what amounted to what looked and felt like paper cuts on my fret palm. Yeah, you got it, sharp frets on the Strat from neck shrinkage. A little smoother from the start would have even been a little friendlier, but now, thanks to a tech with experience, they're smooth like butter. :D
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:59 pm
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It hasn't happened to every instrument I've have, just two of them, which is fortunate for me. I guess that's just part of living in a place that has cold and dry weather.

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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:14 pm
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It hasn't happened to every instrument I've have, just two of them, which is fortunate for me. I guess that's just part of living in a place that has cold and dry weather.
I hear ya, Paul. Now with the acoustic I'm doing the song and dance with the kraziness of choosing one of a kazillion ways and theory's of humidifying the guitar but not the electronics or label in the sound hole. :roll: :lol:
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Going to go out for my walk and cook some spaghetti and meat sauce when I get back. I was also jamming a bit with both my violin and Schecter Jazz Bass. I might do some more of that later, too.

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Having some Java, an English muffin and eggs before I tackle some electrical troubleshooting for a breaker and an outside post where the car plugs in for Winter. Mrs, FSB had an Oh Oh and while plugged in, and now it's on my to do list. If it turns out to be more than I can handle, I'll trade the coffee for something a little stronger. :P
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