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Ceri wrote:
Thanks Mike. That's actually somewhat clearer than their website, isn't it?

The nearest dealer to me that they list is not immediately easy to get to, so it may be a while before I get my hands on one - but I'm curious, at any rate.

I wonder if anyone has seen a magazine review, to get a dispassionate view on how the material sounds?

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Ceri if you get to try one please fill us in I was fascinated when first found out about them. They look like the only U.S dealer seems to be Elderly Instruments which are good people to deal with but no where near me for all I have done with them is internet related sales. They look to be well made and the theory sounds interesting. Who knows it could be a sign of things to come.

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Ceri wrote:
Thanks Mike. That's actually somewhat clearer than their website, isn't it?

The nearest dealer to me that they list is not immediately easy to get to, so it may be a while before I get my hands on one - but I'm curious, at any rate.

I wonder if anyone has seen a magazine review, to get a dispassionate view on how the material sounds?

Cheers - C

Ceri if you get to try one please fill us in I was fascinated when first found out about them. They look like the only U.S dealer seems to be Elderly Instruments which are good people to deal with but no where near me for all I have done with them is internet related sales. They look to be well made and the theory sounds interesting. Who knows it could be a sign of things to come.


Will do!

The dealer in my country is a tiresome drive away, but my curiosity is aroused. Next time I'm going that direction I'll try to build it into the plans...

Far as resin guitars are concerned, I've never had my hands on a Dan Armstrong Ampeg acrylic guitar, but I seem to recall the general opinion is endless sustain but a little lacking tonewise - is that right? Or maybe I'm misremembering.

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Ceri wrote:
Thanks Mike. That's actually somewhat clearer than their website, isn't it?

The nearest dealer to me that they list is not immediately easy to get to, so it may be a while before I get my hands on one - but I'm curious, at any rate.

I wonder if anyone has seen a magazine review, to get a dispassionate view on how the material sounds?

Cheers - C

Ceri if you get to try one please fill us in I was fascinated when first found out about them. They look like the only U.S dealer seems to be Elderly Instruments which are good people to deal with but no where near me for all I have done with them is internet related sales. They look to be well made and the theory sounds interesting. Who knows it could be a sign of things to come.


Will do!

The dealer in my country is a tiresome drive away, but my curiosity is aroused. Next time I'm going that direction I'll try to build it into the plans...

Far as resin guitars are concerned, I've never had my hands on a Dan Armstrong Ampeg acrylic guitar, but I seem to recall the general opinion is endless sustain but a little lacking tonewise - is that right? Or maybe I'm misremembering.

Cheers - C

I thought they sound good, but different then a strat leaning more to a heavier sounding LP but they feel kind of odd. On both that I have played recently the necks seem to vary a lot between the two. One was easy and comfortable and the other I did not like. To me I think I would prefer a wood resin over the acrylics because I would think the body feel would not be as much of a departure from what we are used to.

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To me I think I would prefer a wood resin over the acrylics because I would think the body feel would not be as much of a departure from what we are used to.


Yep, I guess that's where they're going with the body shape. Nothing too shocking. Did you see the back of the guitars, though? Interesting...

BTW. The fella you linked to with the bamboo Tele: do you have any idea where he might have been sourcing the bamboo timber? I'm guessing he didn't go out in the garden and chop himself down a bunch. Someone is obviously pressing it into a denser wood-like material. I'd be curious to take a look at that...

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Ceri wrote:
Thanks Mike. That's actually somewhat clearer than their website, isn't it?

The nearest dealer to me that they list is not immediately easy to get to, so it may be a while before I get my hands on one - but I'm curious, at any rate.

I wonder if anyone has seen a magazine review, to get a dispassionate view on how the material sounds?

Cheers - C


Your welcome, Ceri. They show a woven cloth in the background, similar to burlap and I'd bet they layer it and use something like polyester resin to form it. Doesn't look like they have any wooden finishes, just painted, NTTAWWT. It wouldn't be the first time a composite material was used for a guitar.

I've seen Reverends made with "phenolic" bodies. They've been using this stuff in guitar manufacturing for years. Ibanez, Curbow, and others have used a material called "luthite," and Gibson used a similar material for their 80's Sonex issues.

It's the same idea as Trex and Deckpro, but a finer powder formula.Valco made Fiberglas-bodied guitars for National and Airline, and they are known for their singular tone. They were molded in two parts (front and back) and glued together with an edge binding to hide the seam. Yeah, there's a maple beam down the middle on the inside, but it sorta tosses all the "ash is better than alder" arguments right into the trash.

Martin makes a down-market line of guitars with a material they call names like "HPL spruce" and "HPL mahogany," but it's actually Formica. It's high-pressure laminate (HPL) lauan wood veneer with a melamine surface that's colored to look like spruce, mahogany, etc. Ever played one? They sound pretty good. They should have called this line the "PergoTar." :D :wink: :shock:

I wonder if playing a flaxwood guitar will provide your daily Omega 3 fatty acids. :shock: :roll: :)

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Ceri wrote:
Thanks Mike. That's actually somewhat clearer than their website, isn't it?

The nearest dealer to me that they list is not immediately easy to get to, so it may be a while before I get my hands on one - but I'm curious, at any rate.

I wonder if anyone has seen a magazine review, to get a dispassionate view on how the material sounds?

Cheers - C



I've seen Reverends made with "phenolic" bodies. They've been using this stuff in guitar manufacturing for years. Ibanez, Curbow, and others have used a material called "luthite," and Gibson used a similar material for their 80's Sonex issues.

It's the same idea as Trex and Deckpro, but a finer powder formula.Valco made Fiberglas-bodied guitars for National and Airline, and they are known for their singular tone. They were molded in two parts (front and back) and glued together with an edge binding to hide the seam. Yeah, there's a maple beam down the middle on the inside, but it sorta tosses all the "ash is better than alder" arguments right into the trash.

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Here are some Res o Glass bodies made in the material similar of the old Airlines of the mid 60's Very cool looking and and would be fun to put together.
http://guitarkitsintl.com/

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Fender Has lost their trademark lawsuit ( its Public Domain now )John hall CEO posted it on the Rickenbacker form.
I guess anybody can make them including Rickenbacker and they have letter signed by leo fender that they can and never has been recinended If they did they would be they would be made in the USA
But i have a american deluxe strat. GTB


It's the body forms of the Strat, Tele, and P-base which have been declared generic, but no other maker can use words like Fender, or the 'F', Stratocaster, Strat, Telelcaster, Tele and the like on the guitars.

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